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Fuel Transfer Placards
Hello -
I'm starting to purchase parts one-by-one to build a mogas fuel transport trailer, and noticed something about the pump, and filters. The 12v Fill-Rite transfer pump I'm looking at has a tag on it that reads something like: "Warning: Not for refueling of aircraft". And, the spin on fuel filters are all stamped: "Not for use with aviation fuels"... So what's the deal? Are they really not for fueling aircraft, or just 'CYA' precautions on behalf of the manufacturers? Looks to be 'CYA' material to me. -- Ben C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y |
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So what's the deal? Are they really not for fueling aircraft, or just
'CYA' precautions on behalf of the manufacturers? Looks to be 'CYA' material to me. You are correct, Ben -- it's all CYA. Your choices a (a) Use a filter expressly marked "not for fueling aircraft" or (b) Don't use a filter. I believe the correct choice is "a" -- but maybe that's just me. I like to know that my fuel is filtered before it gets to my airplane. See http://alexisparkinn.com/fuel_truck.htm for pix. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay,
I believe you are getting auto fuel to fill your truck and using that in the plane. If so, what will you do when you cannot get non-ethanol gas? Ethanol appears to be showing up in non-urban areas now. Mike Jay Honeck wrote: So what's the deal? Are they really not for fueling aircraft, or just 'CYA' precautions on behalf of the manufacturers? Looks to be 'CYA' material to me. You are correct, Ben -- it's all CYA. Your choices a (a) Use a filter expressly marked "not for fueling aircraft" or (b) Don't use a filter. I believe the correct choice is "a" -- but maybe that's just me. I like to know that my fuel is filtered before it gets to my airplane. See http://alexisparkinn.com/fuel_truck.htm for pix. __________________________________________________ _____________________________ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com The Worlds Uncensored News Source |
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I believe you are getting auto fuel to fill your truck and using that in
the plane. If so, what will you do when you cannot get non-ethanol gas? Ethanol appears to be showing up in non-urban areas now. I have not had any trouble finding "regular unleaded" (AKA: No Ethanol Gas) here in Iowa. If any state in the nation is prone to go "all ethanol, all the time", it MUST be Iowa -- since most of the stuff is grown/brewed here. (In fact, they've put a bunch of tax incentives on the gas, so that ethanol gas is actually a few cents a gallon cheaper per gallon here in Iowa...) But no one (to my knowledge) has proposed eliminating regular unleaded. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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How about using a Mr. Funnel. see it at : http://www.mrfunnel.com/
We used one of these when we were filling from cans. It keeps water out of gas, but it's an awful mess to use -- and has no effect on keeping ethanol out of gasoline. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay Honeck wrote: But no one (to my knowledge) has proposed eliminating regular unleaded. They are mainly doing that in heavily populated areas, and in many of these places, only in Winter. New Jersey, for example, has mandated that "oxygenated" fuel be sold during the Winter. Until recently, that meant that MBTE was added, but they are switching to ethanol. Postings on this group indicate that things may be worse in California in this respect - anyone? In areas with these laws, it becomes impossible to buy gas without ethanol at the highway gas stations. George Patterson Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect. - Linus Torvalds, speaking about Linux. |
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In article UWlib.754008$uu5.129801@sccrnsc04, Jay Honeck
wrote: If any state in the nation is prone to go "all ethanol, all the time", it MUST be Iowa -- since most of the stuff is grown/brewed here. (In fact, they've put a bunch of tax incentives on the gas, so that ethanol gas is actually a few cents a gallon cheaper per gallon here in Iowa...) I always wondered where all that genetically modified corn went after it was refused for human consumption. I would bet that you don't have any weeds growing in your tanks, either, do you? ;-)) |
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I was just thinking of that. I'm actually surprised you can find
it there in Iowa, Jay. I know of two places (coincidentally where my family is and I tend to fly to) where ethanol is mandated. Milwaukee, WI requires not only oxygenate, but with a weird mix that only they use (read: expensive). Columbus, OH also mandates ethanol. From the sounds of it, straight gasoline is getting harder and harder to come by. I'd better fly some more to pay back the $1500 STC for my Cherokee before pure gasoline goes away... -Cory Jay Honeck wrote: : I have not had any trouble finding "regular unleaded" (AKA: No Ethanol Gas) : here in Iowa. : If any state in the nation is prone to go "all ethanol, all the time", it : MUST be Iowa -- since most of the stuff is grown/brewed here. (In fact, : they've put a bunch of tax incentives on the gas, so that ethanol gas is : actually a few cents a gallon cheaper per gallon here in Iowa...) : But no one (to my knowledge) has proposed eliminating regular unleaded. : -- : Jay Honeck : Iowa City, IA : Pathfinder N56993 : www.AlexisParkInn.com : "Your Aviation Destination" -- ************************************************** *********************** * The prime directive of Linux: * * - learn what you don't know, * * - teach what you do. * * (Just my 20 USm$) * ************************************************** *********************** |
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I'm sure it's CYA. Of course make sure the final setup is
grounded for safety... it's a serious issue. I've been using autofuel for 6 months or so with 6 gallon cans. So far, no real big issue, but I did consistently find a bit of crud and water in the fuel sump. Three weeks ago I rigged up one of the spin-on, water-absorbing filters as a "pour-spout" on the 6 gallon cans. After flushing the tanks of all the crud (including pieces of stickers apparently scraped in there when the previous owner stripped and painted the plane), it's clean as a whistle. Now the one issue I had with running cargas (contaminated fuel) is resolved. Nice to finally draw a sample with *absolutely no* particulates or water. Even avgas pumped from various airports tend to have a few little particles here and there. Cheers -Cory BTW, Jay... how much water and gunk have you found in your system after running hundreds (thousands?) of gallons through? Cut open the filter when you change it if you haven't already.... Ben Smith wrote: : Hello - : I'm starting to purchase parts one-by-one to build a mogas fuel transport : trailer, and noticed something about the pump, and filters. : The 12v Fill-Rite transfer pump I'm looking at has a tag on it that reads : something like: "Warning: Not for refueling of aircraft". : And, the spin on fuel filters are all stamped: "Not for use with aviation : fuels"... : So what's the deal? Are they really not for fueling aircraft, or just 'CYA' : precautions on behalf of the manufacturers? Looks to be 'CYA' material to : me. : -- : Ben : C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y -- ************************************************** *********************** * The prime directive of Linux: * * - learn what you don't know, * * - teach what you do. * * (Just my 20 USm$) * ************************************************** *********************** |
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