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Old July 23rd 05, 06:24 AM
Martin Hotze
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 02:19:29 GMT, George Patterson wrote:

Sooo, if I am a student (backpack) with a resemblance to someone
(passing or specific), wearing a "padded coat" (in mid to high 60's
weather and rain forecast, and I have the chills because of the flu)
and run from armed people (unclear whether these armed police were
plainclothes or not)...it gives those armed people the right to kill me
from 2 feet away?!?!?!


Yes, it does.


you have to set the scope right: this happened in Europe. We aren't used to
shootouts. And we aren't into eye for eye.

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Old July 23rd 05, 01:34 PM
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"Newps" wrote in message
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He was one of the suspects from yesterday,


Where did you read that he was a suspect from Thursday's bombing attempt?
The accounts I've read did not say that.

They did say, though, that plainclothes police followed him from a house to
the subway before shooting him point-blank as he lay on the floor of a
subway train. It's unobvious how there could've been enough danger to
warrant killing him for not stopping, but not enough danger to warrant
intercepting him before he walked to the subway.

--Gary


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Old July 23rd 05, 02:41 PM
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Martin Hotze wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:19:57 -0600, Newps wrote:


It's good to see the British are now shooting first and asking questions
later.

Yeah, brilliant. Now they can question the dead guy.


Right. He was one of the suspects from yesterday, he was wearing a
trenchcoat, in July, and a backpack and ran from the cops. It's open
season, fire away.



well, let's hope it is not YOU one day standing somewhere, maybe not
understanding some orders and being shot. They will ask questions later.
And you will be marked as collateral damage; you HAVE to understand: it is
the war against terror.


I like how you conveniently miss the point the guy was a suspect and was
being followed and only when it looked like he was going to commit his
crime did the cops make themselves known. And then he ran.

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Old July 23rd 05, 02:51 PM
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Newps wrote:

I like how you conveniently miss the point the guy was a suspect


Unluckily I happen to fit a certain profile. But then, I don't wear
trenchcoats, so I might have a chance.

And then he ran.


I'll try to never be in a hurry, then.

Stefan
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Old July 23rd 05, 03:49 PM
George Patterson
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Martin Hotze wrote:

you have to set the scope right.....


Yes, using a scope would make things easier. :-)

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.
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Old July 23rd 05, 03:53 PM
George Patterson
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Martin Hotze wrote:

And we aren't into eye for eye.


There's nothing "eye to eye" about it. If someone goes out of their way to
convince the authorities that they are carrying a bomb and have the ability to
set it off at any time, it is not only the right but it is the *responsibility*
of the authorities to kill him as rapidly and surely as possible without
discharging the bomb. If he didn't happen to have a bomb, his actions simply
make him a candidate for the Darwin award.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.
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Old July 23rd 05, 05:34 PM
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George Patterson wrote:

Martin Hotze wrote:

And we aren't into eye for eye.



There's nothing "eye to eye" about it. If someone goes out of their way
to convince the authorities that they are carrying a bomb and have the
ability to set it off at any time, it is not only the right but it is
the *responsibility* of the authorities to kill him as rapidly and
surely as possible without discharging the bomb. If he didn't happen to
have a bomb, his actions simply make him a candidate for the Darwin award.


I believe we should find a way to set off hidden bombs when terrorists
go through a fortified scanning tunnel.
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Old July 23rd 05, 05:53 PM
George Patterson
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Stubby wrote:

I believe we should find a way to set off hidden bombs when terrorists
go through a fortified scanning tunnel.


If you think you can convince a bunch of New Yorkers to go through such a thing
one at a time, you've never seen a typical subway turnstile on a weekday.

As long as we're dreaming, how 'bout something that can *disarm* hidden bombs?
Throw in a detection mechanism while you're at it, so we can catch them too.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.
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Old July 23rd 05, 06:17 PM
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George Patterson wrote:

Stubby wrote:


I believe we should find a way to set off hidden bombs when terrorists
go through a fortified scanning tunnel.



If you think you can convince a bunch of New Yorkers to go through such
a thing one at a time, you've never seen a typical subway turnstile on a
weekday.

OK. Put in 1000 or so.

As long as we're dreaming, how 'bout something that can *disarm* hidden
bombs? Throw in a detection mechanism while you're at it, so we can
catch them too.

No. That would dull the fun. Plus, we would have to bear the expense
of trying them in court and maintaining them in prison. Let them die by
their own hand!
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Old July 23rd 05, 06:18 PM
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Richard Riley wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:51:57 +0200, Stefan
wrote:

:Newps wrote:
:
: I like how you conveniently miss the point the guy was a suspect
:
:Unluckily I happen to fit a certain profile. But then, I don't wear
:trenchcoats, so I might have a chance.
:
: And then he ran.
:
:I'll try to never be in a hurry, then.

OK, how about this as a simple rule.

When more than one person is aiming a gun at you and yelling "Stop,
Police!" don't run away from them.


OK if you yell the command in 31 different languages.
 




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