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Sport Pilot CFI and FAR's
Hey guys,
Since I am a CFIG, 61.429 would allow me to teach at the sport pilot glider level without getting the 5 hours of make and model time in, correct? Now, 61.419 tells me that I can obtain addtional priviliges to provide training in other light-sport aircraft such as LSA single engine land, by getting and completing a endorsement and proficency check by another instructor, correct? However, since I am not a "fully rated CFI" in airplanes, I can only instruct pilots to the sport-pilot level and need 5 PIC time in the make and model to instruct, correct? I heard about the 5 hours PIC, but could find it nowhere in the FAR's, anybody? -Nik |
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wrote in message ups.com... Hey guys, Since I am a CFIG, 61.429 would allow me to teach at the sport pilot glider level without getting the 5 hours of make and model time in, correct? Now, 61.419 tells me that I can obtain addtional priviliges to provide training in other light-sport aircraft such as LSA single engine land, by getting and completing a endorsement and proficency check by another instructor, correct? However, since I am not a "fully rated CFI" in airplanes, I can only instruct pilots to the sport-pilot level and need 5 PIC time in the make and model to instruct, correct? I heard about the 5 hours PIC, but could find it nowhere in the FAR's, anybody? Could you do that without being rated in airplanes? If not, what level SEL certificate would you need to have? This is an academically interesting subject to me, as I am also a CFIG, but only have a Private rating in airplanes. ("academic" because I have zero desire to actually instruct in airplanes) While we are on the subject, I remain confused about when a ground instructor certificate is needed. As a CFIG could I legally teach a Private Pilot SEL course or would I need to first get a Ground Instructor certificate? Vaughn Vaughn |
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Vaughn Simon wrote: While we are on the subject, I remain confused about when a ground instructor certificate is needed. As a CFIG could I legally teach a Private Pilot SEL course or would I need to first get a Ground Instructor certificate? I hold GI, AGI, and IGI certificates. I took the tests beacause I had studied all the required material for the flight instructor ratings. I don't expect them to be useful unless I fail to keep my CFI rating current. I know of nothing a ground instructor can do that a flight instructor with equivalent rating cannnot. I hope it's not possible to get a sport pilot instructor rating for a type of aircraft you are not rated in. Surely the regs are not that stupid. Andy |
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(US only) Sport Pilot CFI and FAR's
Andy wrote:
...I know of nothing a ground instructor can do that a flight instructor with equivalent rating cannnot. Nothing major, that's for sure. All I can come up with that CFI must log/record each student endorsed for taking the knowledge test (as well as the score received) and that log must be kept for at least 3 years (FAR 61.189). A ground instructor is under no such obligation. My understanding is that CFI endorsed knowledge test failure counts against the CFI just as a practical test failure would. I expect that this may be an issue when you teach large groups and can't track an individual student well as you could if you were also his/her CFI. IMHO, I recommend that all prospective CFIs also take the Advanced Ground Instructor knowledge test around the time that they take the CFI knowledge test. It's the same test except they can ask you questions about all aircraft types on the AGI test. Really no big deal. Tony V. CFI-G, AGI |
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"Andy" wrote in message ps.com... I hold GI, AGI, and IGI certificates. I took the tests beacause I had studied all the required material for the flight instructor ratings. I don't expect them to be useful unless I fail to keep my CFI rating current. I know of nothing a ground instructor can do that a flight instructor with equivalent rating cannnot. There is one small advantage of a ground instructor certificate. Strangely enough, they don't have the record keeping requirements of a CFI. So if you sign someone off for a test and use your ground instructor certificate, you don't get a black mark if they fail the written and you don't even have to chase them to get the results of their test so you can log it as required by far 61.189. Vaughn |
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Sport Pilot CFI and FAR's
This is also interesting because there is no "commercial" light sport rating except for instructor. This is just my opinion, but I think that with a private SEL rating you are by default rated to fly LSA airplanes, so if you also have a CFIG and the necessary PIC time, then you should be able to use 61.419 to instruct in airplanes, but only to the LSA level. As far as I'm concerned, this makes reasonable sense. LSA's are considerably simpler to fly than say a Stemme S10, or an ASH-25Mi, and the PIC time requirements ensure that you are at least reasonably familiar with the aircraft. Some of the newer motorgliders like the Pipistrel Virus very closely resemble an LSA in fact. The operating regime of the typical LSA is also going to be very similar to most gliders. Typically local flying in good weather. Regards, Mark Lenox, CFIG Chilhowee Gliderport www.chilhowee.com wrote in message ups.com... Hey guys, Since I am a CFIG, 61.429 would allow me to teach at the sport pilot glider level without getting the 5 hours of make and model time in, correct? Now, 61.419 tells me that I can obtain addtional priviliges to provide training in other light-sport aircraft such as LSA single engine land, by getting and completing a endorsement and proficency check by another instructor, correct? However, since I am not a "fully rated CFI" in airplanes, I can only instruct pilots to the sport-pilot level and need 5 PIC time in the make and model to instruct, correct? I heard about the 5 hours PIC, but could find it nowhere in the FAR's, anybody? -Nik |
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