Superior HK XM8 Kicks M4's Ass

http://www.hk-usa.com/pages/military...bines/xm8.html

Check out the head-to-head comparison. HK rules!

Rob

Gee let's see. The M-16/M4 has at least been tested in real combat
conditions as opposed to what the manufacturer (HK) says the HK XM8 does in
the lab. This HK XM8 looks like some European artsy fartsy BJ. That's just
what we need, more cheap plastic firearms. I am proficient with the M-16
and have confidence that I can hit what I am aiming at, but I would have
much preferred to carry an M-14 or even an M-1 Garand (I decided a while ago
to avoid the argument as to which one is the greatest battle rifle in the
entire universe by purchasing one of each). I forget who said this, I think
it was an US Army Colonel but I'm probably wrong. But anyway he said that
"We should give the men a semi-automatic rifle and teach them how to use it"
or something along those lines. Before the days of the 5.56 bullet, you
never heard anyone say "Put two in the chest and one in the head". With a
150 grain .30 cal. bullet it was put one in the torso and the only way he
gets back up is with someone else's help. Does this wonderful new weapon
have provision for a bayonet? It obviously doesn't have a convenient hand
hold for when you have to club someone. Marines like me tend to think about
those things for when we make our "last stand". I used to do the
occasional post here several years ago, but lately I've just been lurking.
From an "outsiders" point of view, you're just a looser wantabe. Maybe when
junior high starts back up in the fall, your ilk will be back in school and
not tying up bandwidth.

Evan Williams
SSgt USMC (ret)

PS What does this have to do with aviation? Other than this piece of crap
can probably fit into a helmet bag.



"robert arndt" wrote in message
om...
http://www.hk-usa.com/pages/military...bines/xm8.html

Check out the head-to-head comparison. HK rules!

Rob

"Evan Williams" wrote in message
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Apologies for off-topicality

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I would have much preferred to carry an M-14 or even an M-1 Garand (I
decided a while ago
to avoid the argument as to which one is the greatest battle rifle in the
entire universe by purchasing one of each).

I've always wondered, what are the differences between the M1, the M1 Garand
and the M14? Is it just cosmetic stuff like magazine capacity, barrel length
and shape of the stock etc, or is there a big difference in the action?

/*obligatory nationalist point scoring to be taken with pinch of salt*/
Of course, the SLR kicked both their arses, and the Lee-Enfield was better
still! ;-)

snip

On 5 Jul 2004 02:16:43 -0700, (robert arndt) wrote:

http://www.hk-usa.com/pages/military...bines/xm8.html

Check out the head-to-head comparison. HK rules!

Rob


Wow. The latest HK assault rifle is superior to a forty-year-old
American design. Something to brag about indeed. Loser.

In message , tw
writes
I've always wondered, what are the differences between the M1, the M1 Garand
and the M14?

M1 rifle was named the Garand: chambered for .30-06 and feeding from an
eight-shot charger.

M14 was very similar, but was chambered in 7.62mm NATO, used a
twenty-round box magazine, and in some versions had a full-auto
capability (little used and often deleted)

Is it just cosmetic stuff like magazine capacity, barrel length
and shape of the stock etc, or is there a big difference in the action?

/*obligatory nationalist point scoring to be taken with pinch of salt*/
Of course, the SLR kicked both their arses, and the Lee-Enfield was better
still! ;-)

Now, for lethality you want a Martini-Henry

--
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Julius Caesar I:2

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk

From: (robert arndt)
Date: 7/5/2004 4:16 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

http://www.hk-usa.com/pages/military...bines/xm8.html

Check out the head-to-head comparison. HK rules!

Rob

Congratulations, teuton, it only took 40 years for you Germans to catch up with
us.

Having said that, you really do need to get over your inferiority complex and
try to stay on topic.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Wow! I always wnated to go into combat carying a feminine hygein product. I can
see the hair curler, but where is the shaving cream dispense?

-- Charlie Springer

"Regnirps" wrote in message
...
Wow! I always wnated to go into combat carying a feminine hygein product.
I can
see the hair curler, but where is the shaving cream dispense?


XM8 was actually designed by HK's US subsidiary as part of the OICW project
and will be manufactured in the US.

"Paul J. Adam" wrote in message
...
In message , tw
writes
I've always wondered, what are the differences between the M1, the M1
Garand
and the M14?

M1 rifle was named the Garand: chambered for .30-06 and feeding from an
eight-shot charger.

M14 was very similar, but was chambered in 7.62mm NATO, used a
twenty-round box magazine, and in some versions had a full-auto
capability (little used and often deleted)


Also, there was the cal .30 carbine.
Per TM9-1276:
M1 Carbine with wooden stock, semi-automatic.
M1A1 Same but folding metal stock.
M2 Carbine with selector for semi or full auto.
M3 Same but accepts sniper-scope. ( see TM5-9341)

(B2431) wrote in message ...
From: (robert arndt)
Date: 7/5/2004 4:16 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

http://www.hk-usa.com/pages/military...bines/xm8.html

Check out the head-to-head comparison. HK rules!

Rob

Congratulations, teuton, it only took 40 years for you Germans to catch up with
us.

How so moron since we Germans invented the assault rifle in WW2 as the
STG-44 and the last was Mauser's STG-45... which the Mauser team went
to Spain and developed as the Cetme... before returning to Germany as
HK improving the design into the G-3... which has led to both the
incredible G-11 and new G-36.
IIRC, you got your crummy M-16A-1 which fouled like a MF in Vietnam...
20 years AFTER the Mauser STG-45.

Having said that, you really do need to get over your inferiority complex and
try to stay on topic.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

What would an AF jerk like you know about rifles anyway? Ever fired
once since boot? I'll bet I own and have fired more assault weapons in
my 20s than you ever fired during your entire military career/life. My
dad was a weapons inspector and I still have a fairly large pre-ban
arsenal at home.

Rob