Airparks; Living On The Beaten Path?

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"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
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This got me thinking, a rudderless Ercoupe in a multi-directional
wind landing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l2NJFrvYls

Do you (I) really want a home that close to a GA landing strip? Yet I
see megabuck homes in my neck of the woods

http://www.visualtour.com/shownp.asp?prt=85&t=1217861

http://preview.tinyurl.com/39avgz Use satellite mode

Am I missing something? Isn't this a bit off the safety charts?
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Cake with a 'coupe. Faster than any other equal powered production
plane...


No, it wasn't. not by a long shot.

Luscombe, Rearwin, T cart. All faster on the same horsepower.







Bertie

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"Blueskies" wrote in
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"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
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This got me thinking, a rudderless Ercoupe in a multi-directional
wind landing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l2NJFrvYls

Do you (I) really want a home that close to a GA landing strip? Yet I
see megabuck homes in my neck of the woods

http://www.visualtour.com/shownp.asp?prt=85&t=1217861

http://preview.tinyurl.com/39avgz Use satellite mode

Am I missing something? Isn't this a bit off the safety charts?
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!


Cake with a 'coupe. Faster than any other equal powered production
plane...


No, it wasn't. not by a long shot.

Luscombe, Rearwin, T cart. All faster on the same horsepower.



Bertie


Ercoupe 415, 85 hp, cruise ~110 mph
(http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...upe-415-g.html)
Luscombe 8F, 90 hp, cruise ~95 mph
(http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...scombe-8a.html)
Rearwin Sportster '8500', 85 hp, cruise ~103 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...0Sportster.htm)
Rearwin Speedster '6000C', 95 hp, cruise ~120 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...0Speedster.htm)
Taylorcraft BC-12D, 65 hp, 90-100 mph (http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...aylorcraft.htm)

That was fun. T cart is T-craft?

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"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
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This got me thinking, a rudderless Ercoupe in a multi-directional
wind landing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l2NJFrvYls

Do you (I) really want a home that close to a GA landing strip? Yet
I see megabuck homes in my neck of the woods

http://www.visualtour.com/shownp.asp?prt=85&t=1217861

http://preview.tinyurl.com/39avgz Use satellite mode

Am I missing something? Isn't this a bit off the safety charts?
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!


Cake with a 'coupe. Faster than any other equal powered production
plane...


No, it wasn't. not by a long shot.

Luscombe, Rearwin, T cart. All faster on the same horsepower.



Bertie


Ercoupe 415, 85 hp, cruise ~110 mph
(http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...ercoupe/1949-e
rcoupe-415-g.html) Luscombe 8F, 90 hp, cruise ~95 mph
(http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...luscombe/1946-
luscombe-8a.html) Rearwin Sportster '8500', 85 hp, cruise ~103 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...n/Rearwin%20Sp
ortster.htm) Rearwin Speedster '6000C', 95 hp, cruise ~120 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...n/Rearwin%20Sp
eedster.htm) Taylorcraft BC-12D, 65 hp, 90-100 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...aylorcraft.htm)

That was fun. T cart is T-craft?


I've flown all of these airplanes except the Speedster, though I did talk
to one of the Rearwin Family about buying the first production airplane at
one time. I think it might still be for sale, but the price is big and it
needs complete restoration. It's Cirrus powered one. Th eMenasco powered
airplane cruised at 140 plus IIRC.

Those figures are rubbish for the Luscombe and the Ercoupe in particular.
All the foloowing figures are in MPH.
The Ercoupe will do about 95 to 100 on an 85 and the Luscombe will cruise
an honest 100 on a 65 and over 110 with an 85. The T-cart will do 95mph
with an A -65 ( My first airplane was a T-cart) The Sporster came with a
large variety of HPs depending and even the 60 HP one wil cruise at over 90
on a good day. a 90 HP Sporster is a fine airplane, BTW.
BTW, the luscombe still holds the closed course record for a production
airplane in it's class 69 years after it set the record. 129 mph, IIRC.
That was an A-65 posered one BTW.

Then there are airplanes like the Jodel 1040. with an O-200 it will lift
three 200 lb guys out of an 1100 foot strip with six hours endurance and
cruise at 120 mph. A Jodel D-12 will do over 100 with an A-65 and get out
of a 600 foot long strip with two guys on board.
The Ercoupe was a good performer, but it wasn't the best at anything.


Bertie

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Ercoupe 415, 85 hp, cruise ~110 mph
(http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...upe-415-g.html)
Luscombe 8F, 90 hp, cruise ~95 mph
(http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...scombe-8a.html)
Rearwin Sportster '8500', 85 hp, cruise ~103 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...0Sportster.htm)
Rearwin Speedster '6000C', 95 hp, cruise ~120 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...0Speedster.htm)
Taylorcraft BC-12D, 65 hp, 90-100 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...aylorcraft.htm)

That was fun. T cart is T-craft?


I've flown all of these airplanes except the Speedster, though I did talk
to one of the Rearwin Family about buying the first production airplane at
one time. I think it might still be for sale, but the price is big and it
needs complete restoration. It's Cirrus powered one. Th eMenasco powered
airplane cruised at 140 plus IIRC.

Those figures are rubbish for the Luscombe and the Ercoupe in particular.
All the foloowing figures are in MPH.
The Ercoupe will do about 95 to 100 on an 85 and the Luscombe will cruise
an honest 100 on a 65 and over 110 with an 85. The T-cart will do 95mph
with an A -65 ( My first airplane was a T-cart) The Sporster came with a
large variety of HPs depending and even the 60 HP one wil cruise at over 90
on a good day. a 90 HP Sporster is a fine airplane, BTW.
BTW, the luscombe still holds the closed course record for a production
airplane in it's class 69 years after it set the record. 129 mph, IIRC.
That was an A-65 posered one BTW.

Then there are airplanes like the Jodel 1040. with an O-200 it will lift
three 200 lb guys out of an 1100 foot strip with six hours endurance and
cruise at 120 mph. A Jodel D-12 will do over 100 with an A-65 and get out
of a 600 foot long strip with two guys on board.
The Ercoupe was a good performer, but it wasn't the best at anything.


Bertie

We've got an old guy (as if I'm not) here who has 3 1/2 coupes, and he does like them. I was quoting him on the
performance numbers, so I can't say from personal experience. He also has a twister (raced it at Cleveland and Reno!) in
his hanger alongside the meyers 200. He likes flying circles around the cessners tho'...

So many airplanes, so little time...what is a T-cart? Your numbers seem to match up on that line...

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"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
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This got me thinking, a rudderless Ercoupe in a multi-directional
wind landing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l2NJFrvYls

Do you (I) really want a home that close to a GA landing strip? Yet I
see megabuck homes in my neck of the woods

http://www.visualtour.com/shownp.asp?prt=85&t=1217861

http://preview.tinyurl.com/39avgz Use satellite mode

Am I missing something? Isn't this a bit off the safety charts?
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!


Cake with a 'coupe. Faster than any other equal powered production
plane...


No, it wasn't. not by a long shot.

Luscombe, Rearwin, T cart. All faster on the same horsepower.



Bertie


Ercoupe 415, 85 hp, cruise ~110 mph
(http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...upe-415-g.html)
Luscombe 8F, 90 hp, cruise ~95 mph
(http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...scombe-8a.html)
Rearwin Sportster '8500', 85 hp, cruise ~103 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...0Sportster.htm)
Rearwin Speedster '6000C', 95 hp, cruise ~120 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...0Speedster.htm)
Taylorcraft BC-12D, 65 hp, 90-100 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...aylorcraft.htm)

That was fun. T cart is T-craft?



The Tcart used to cruise at 100 in real life on a Continental A-65.

I have flown several Coupes. Have yet to see 110 mph in level flight on any
of them!

Sometimes specifications are accurate, and sometimes they aren't! :-)

Highflyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Pinckneyville Airport, PJY

"Highflyer" wrote in message
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The Tcart used to cruise at 100 in real life on a Continental A-65.

I have flown several Coupes. Have yet to see 110 mph in level flight on
any of them!

Sometimes specifications are accurate, and sometimes they aren't! :-)

Highflyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Pinckneyville Airport, PJY


At one time, I marvelled at how much more capable so many older designs must
have been--and then I learned that some of those old factory specs were just
as imaginative as some of the earliest kits.

It was nearly as dissappointing as being a Democrat--or a Republican. :-(

Peter

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This got me thinking, a rudderless Ercoupe in a multi-directional
wind landing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l2NJFrvYls

Do you (I) really want a home that close to a GA landing strip? Yet I
see megabuck homes in my neck of the woods

http://www.visualtour.com/shownp.asp?prt=85&t=1217861

http://preview.tinyurl.com/39avgz Use satellite mode

Am I missing something? Isn't this a bit off the safety charts?
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!


Cake with a 'coupe. Faster than any other equal powered production
plane...


No, it wasn't. not by a long shot.

Luscombe, Rearwin, T cart. All faster on the same horsepower.



Bertie


Ercoupe 415, 85 hp, cruise ~110 mph
(http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...upe-415-g.html)
Luscombe 8F, 90 hp, cruise ~95 mph
(http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...scombe-8a.html)
Rearwin Sportster '8500', 85 hp, cruise ~103 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...0Sportster.htm)
Rearwin Speedster '6000C', 95 hp, cruise ~120 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...0Speedster.htm)
Taylorcraft BC-12D, 65 hp, 90-100 mph
(http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...aylorcraft.htm)

That was fun. T cart is T-craft?




The Tcart used to cruise at 100 in real life on a Continental A-65.

I have flown several Coupes. Have yet to see 110 mph in level flight on any
of them!

Sometimes specifications are accurate, and sometimes they aren't! :-)

Highflyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Pinckneyville Airport, PJY



All it takes is a little collar on the pitot tube (and a bit of tweaking
the position)

And this video is remarkable because...?

WJRFlyBoy wrote:
This got me thinking, a rudderless Ercoupe in a multi-directional wind
landing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l2NJFrvYls

Do you (I) really want a home that close to a GA landing strip? Yet I see
megabuck homes in my neck of the woods

WJRFlyBoy wrote:
This got me thinking, a rudderless Ercoupe in a multi-directional wind
landing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l2NJFrvYls

Do you (I) really want a home that close to a GA landing strip? Yet I see
megabuck homes in my neck of the woods


On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:29:59 -0700 (PDT), Dan wrote:

And this video is remarkable because...?

Not the video, it reminded me of this question/thread I wanted to initiate.
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Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.

Dan wrote:
And this video is remarkable because...?


It is a really pretty Ercoupe! I think living that close to a GA
landing strip is the way to go (we break ground this week!!)
www.longislandairpark.com Phase II lot 12.

Margy


WJRFlyBoy wrote:

This got me thinking, a rudderless Ercoupe in a multi-directional wind
landing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l2NJFrvYls

Do you (I) really want a home that close to a GA landing strip? Yet I see
megabuck homes in my neck of the woods