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BMW engine for ultralight (was: Corvair engine site needed)
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:30:28 +0000, jan olieslagers
wrote: jan olieslagers schreef: Fred the Red Shirt schreef: I am surprised that motorcycle engines, like the BMW footwarmers, are not a popular starting point for conversions. I'm sure there are good reasons for that, just don't know what they are. Whatever the reasons, they must depend on local factors, such as availability of engines, spares, workmanship. Here in tiny Belgium I hear about spreading use of a BMW bike engine conversion. http://www.asa-be.com/images/PhotoGa...G01/OO-G23.JPG shows an example - observe the extra cowling width, and the very long exhaust pipe. Can't be sure but might well be from this place: http://www.takeoff-ul.de/ (and good luck with the Teuton lingo...) I looked into this a while ago. there are no engines available as spares so the only way of obtaining one is to buy a bike and throw away the frame. the bikes cost $33,000 australian dollars a jabiru engine is less than half that and it was designed as an aircraft engine. does that make any sense to you? Stealth Pilot |
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BMW engine for ultralight
Stealth Pilot wrote:
I looked into this a while ago. there are no engines available as spares so the only way of obtaining one is to buy a bike and throw away the frame. the bikes cost $33,000 australian dollars a jabiru engine is less than half that and it was designed as an aircraft engine. does that make any sense to you? Stealth Pilot German ebay lists quite a few for reasonable price: http://cgi.ebay.de/Motor-BMW-R-1100-...item1e57ed6b9c http://cgi.ebay.de/Motor-BMW-R-1100-...item3ca8d64508 http://cgi.ebay.de/BMW-Motor-R850-R1...item2ea8f7c2ff http://cgi.ebay.de/BMW-R-1100-GS-R-M...item53dae8c437 http://cgi.ebay.de/BMW-R-1100-GS-R-M...item53dae8c46d .... |
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BMW engine for ultralight
"Ralf Mueller" wrote German ebay lists quite a few for reasonable price: How much would it cost to find someone who would crate and ship on to the US? -- Jim in NC |
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BMW engine for ultralight
Morgans wrote:
"Ralf Mueller" wrote German ebay lists quite a few for reasonable price: How much would it cost to find someone who would crate and ship on to the US? finding someone shouldn't be the problem ;-) but shipping cost could. I recently ordered a canopy and fuel tank from Sonex. Freight cost (air freight) and tax was twice the value of the goods. Sea freight is not much less (and more risky). |
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BMW engine for ultralight
le dimanche 17 janvier 2010 19:22, Morgans s'est penché sur son
écritoire numérique et a écrit: How much would it cost to find someone who would crate and ship on to the US? I guess more than $500. Ask UPS for a 200lb parcel -- Pub: http://www.cd1d.com/ Philippe Vessaire Ò¿Ó¬ |
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BMW engine for ultralight
le dimanche 17 janvier 2010 19:32, Ralf Mueller s'est penché sur son
écritoire numérique et a écrit: How much would it cost to find someone who would crate and ship on to the US? finding someone shouldn't be the problem ;-) but shipping cost could. I recently ordered a canopy and fuel tank from Sonex. Freight cost (air freight) and tax was twice the value of the goods. Sea freight is not much less (and more risky). Volume cost as weight... -- Pub: http://www.cd1d.com/ Philippe Vessaire Ò¿Ó¬ |
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BMW engine for ultralight
Morgans schreef:
"Ralf Mueller" wrote German ebay lists quite a few for reasonable price: How much would it cost to find someone who would crate and ship on to the US? Finding someone shouldn't be too hard - all else failing, one could try bribing yours truly };-) Crating should be done by the supplier, and these Germans have a reputation for doing mechanical jobs solidly, so that's not a problem either. Or for a second hand engine, yours truly might well be able to dig up a used pallet somewhere, strap the engine to it, and add some planking around. But indeed shipping a single piece would be a bit awkward, the one thing to make sense is to ship a container full of them. Even a 20" container would easily hold 50 pcs, though, at a rough estimate - would there be a market for 50 of these engines at a reasonable price? And the comparison with the Jabiru is justified: what advantages has the modified BMW over Jabiru 2200? The "reasonable" price for the BMW should, IMHO, have to be lower than the Jabiru's. Not an easy ambition at today's $-€ rates. |
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BMW engine for ultralight
On Jan 17, 6:32*am, Ralf Mueller wrote:
Stealth Pilot wrote: I looked into this a while ago. there are no engines available as spares so the only way of obtaining one is to buy a bike and throw away the frame. the bikes cost $33,000 australian dollars a jabiru engine is less than half that and it was designed as an aircraft engine. does that make any sense to you? Stealth Pilot German ebay lists quite a few for reasonable price:http://cgi.ebay.de/Motor-BMW-R-1100-...ne-TOP_W0QQite... ... If I'm not mistaken, those are all BMW "OilHeads" as opposed to the older "AirHeads". One nice thing about either is that parts are still available. The Airhead engines are a LOT simpler (aircooled 2 valve pushrod), but make less horsepower. They may well be lighter too. I weighed one of my R100 engines many years ago, I think it came in right around 100 pounds without the exhaust system. I don't know what they 'claim' for HP, but it isn't much. |
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