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Old January 17th 10, 07:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default BMW engine for ultralight (was: Corvair engine site needed)

On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:30:28 +0000, jan olieslagers
wrote:

jan olieslagers schreef:
Fred the Red Shirt schreef:

I am surprised that motorcycle engines, like the BMW footwarmers,
are not a popular starting point for conversions. I'm sure there are
good reasons for that, just don't know what they are.


Whatever the reasons, they must depend on local factors, such as
availability of engines, spares, workmanship. Here in tiny Belgium I
hear about spreading use of a BMW bike engine conversion.

http://www.asa-be.com/images/PhotoGa...G01/OO-G23.JPG

shows an example - observe the extra cowling width, and the very long
exhaust pipe.


Can't be sure but might well be from this place:
http://www.takeoff-ul.de/
(and good luck with the Teuton lingo...)


I looked into this a while ago.
there are no engines available as spares so the only way of obtaining
one is to buy a bike and throw away the frame.
the bikes cost $33,000 australian dollars
a jabiru engine is less than half that and it was designed as an
aircraft engine.
does that make any sense to you?

Stealth Pilot
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Old January 17th 10, 02:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Ralf Mueller
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Default BMW engine for ultralight

Stealth Pilot wrote:
I looked into this a while ago.
there are no engines available as spares so the only way of obtaining
one is to buy a bike and throw away the frame.
the bikes cost $33,000 australian dollars
a jabiru engine is less than half that and it was designed as an
aircraft engine.
does that make any sense to you?

Stealth Pilot


German ebay lists quite a few for reasonable price:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Motor-BMW-R-1100-...item1e57ed6b9c
http://cgi.ebay.de/Motor-BMW-R-1100-...item3ca8d64508
http://cgi.ebay.de/BMW-Motor-R850-R1...item2ea8f7c2ff
http://cgi.ebay.de/BMW-R-1100-GS-R-M...item53dae8c437
http://cgi.ebay.de/BMW-R-1100-GS-R-M...item53dae8c46d
....
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Old January 17th 10, 06:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default BMW engine for ultralight


"Ralf Mueller" wrote

German ebay lists quite a few for reasonable price:


How much would it cost to find someone who would crate and ship on to the
US?
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Old January 17th 10, 06:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Morgans wrote:
"Ralf Mueller" wrote
German ebay lists quite a few for reasonable price:


How much would it cost to find someone who would crate and ship on to the
US?

finding someone shouldn't be the problem ;-)
but shipping cost could. I recently ordered a canopy and fuel tank from
Sonex. Freight cost (air freight) and tax was twice the value of the
goods. Sea freight is not much less (and more risky).
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Old January 17th 10, 06:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default BMW engine for ultralight

le dimanche 17 janvier 2010 19:22, Morgans s'est penché sur son
écritoire numérique et a écrit:

How much would it cost to find someone who would crate and ship on to
the US?

I guess more than $500. Ask UPS for a 200lb parcel

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Old January 17th 10, 06:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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le dimanche 17 janvier 2010 19:32, Ralf Mueller s'est penché sur son
écritoire numérique et a écrit:

How much would it cost to find someone who would crate and ship on to
the US?

finding someone shouldn't be the problem ;-)
but shipping cost could. I recently ordered a canopy and fuel tank
from Sonex. Freight cost (air freight) and tax was twice the value of
the goods. Sea freight is not much less (and more risky).

Volume cost as weight...

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Old January 17th 10, 08:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
jan olieslagers[_2_]
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Default BMW engine for ultralight

Morgans schreef:
"Ralf Mueller" wrote
German ebay lists quite a few for reasonable price:


How much would it cost to find someone who would crate and ship on to the
US?


Finding someone shouldn't be too hard - all else failing, one could try
bribing yours truly };-) Crating should be done by the supplier, and
these Germans have a reputation for doing mechanical jobs solidly, so
that's not a problem either.
Or for a second hand engine, yours truly might well be able to dig up a
used pallet somewhere, strap the engine to it, and add some planking around.

But indeed shipping a single piece would be a bit awkward, the one thing
to make sense is to ship a container full of them. Even a 20" container
would easily hold 50 pcs, though, at a rough estimate - would there be a
market for 50 of these engines at a reasonable price?

And the comparison with the Jabiru is justified: what advantages has the
modified BMW over Jabiru 2200? The "reasonable" price for the BMW
should, IMHO, have to be lower than the Jabiru's. Not an easy ambition
at today's $-€ rates.
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Old January 20th 10, 08:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default BMW engine for ultralight

On Jan 17, 6:32*am, Ralf Mueller wrote:
Stealth Pilot wrote:
I looked into this a while ago.
there are no engines available as spares so the only way of obtaining
one is to buy a bike and throw away the frame.
the bikes cost $33,000 australian dollars
a jabiru engine is less than half that and it was designed as an
aircraft engine.
does that make any sense to you?


Stealth Pilot


German ebay lists quite a few for reasonable price:http://cgi.ebay.de/Motor-BMW-R-1100-...ne-TOP_W0QQite...
...


If I'm not mistaken, those are all BMW "OilHeads" as opposed to the
older "AirHeads". One nice thing about either is that parts are still
available. The Airhead engines are a LOT simpler (aircooled 2 valve
pushrod), but make less horsepower. They may well be lighter too. I
weighed one of my R100 engines many years ago, I think it came in
right around 100 pounds without the exhaust system. I don't know what
they 'claim' for HP, but it isn't much.
 




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