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Old June 9th 05, 03:44 AM
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CTR wrote:

Could be. Then again, a lot of things change over the course of ten
years, especially in the commercial marketplace. Ten years ago the
industry pundits were vilifying MD for trying to hold on to their
commercial operation. They said that the domestic civilian rotorcraft
market simply wasn't big enough for three players and MDHC Commercial
was small potatoes with no hope for the future. Not even Bell or
Sikorsky wanted it (Bell made a half-hearted bid, but breathed a deep
sigh of relief when the Feds shot it down).

Now we're ten years down the road and Boeing is being ridiculed for
selling a low-value operation that they were once criticized for not
selling sooner. The civilian market is very difficult to predict with
any certainty more than a few years out and it doesn't take much to
upset the best laid plans of the marketers.


Problem is, MDHI's recent ownership/management has screwed the pooch even
worse than Boeing did.


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Old June 10th 05, 06:29 PM
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The EuroCopter VP at the AHS Forum said they view the civil and
military markets as complementary businesses -- both to sustain
production numbers and nurture new technology. I hate to see our
short-term business mentality surrender the long-term market to them.
They're following the same plan Japanese carmakers used here -- grow
market share, set up domestic lines, and take the market.

HW

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Old June 11th 05, 02:31 AM
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Helowriter wrote:
The EuroCopter VP at the AHS Forum said they view the civil and
military markets as complementary businesses -- both to sustain
production numbers and nurture new technology. I hate to see our
short-term business mentality surrender the long-term market to them.
They're following the same plan Japanese carmakers used here -- grow
market share, set up domestic lines, and take the market.

HW


HW,

If you were at the AHS Forum, what did you think of Walter
Sonneborne's speech on the state of the US helicopter industry?

Also, what did you think of the Sikorsky CEO's response to the Mil
Helicopter engineers question on the technical feasibility of the
Advancing Blade Concept X2?

Take care,

CTR

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Old June 12th 05, 12:02 AM
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Unfortunately, I had to duck out for an XWorx visit before Mr.
Sonneborne spoke. I'm going to try to get a copy of his remarks.

Personally, I think Mr. Finger should have answered Mr. Tschenko(sp?)
-- just walking off the stage seemed a little disrespectful. The
Russians certainly have solid technical insights, but I think Sikorsky
has a new set of answers to the limitations of the coax and the
thruster.

Take a look at the shaft-driven fan in the JSF. That clutch and
transmission could drive a thruster. We'll see.

HW

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Old June 12th 05, 02:26 PM
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HW,

While at the Bell Xworx did you get a chance to see the BA609? Were
you their to see it fly? What did you think?

Take care,

CTR

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Old June 12th 05, 05:04 PM
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It flew the next day. They were waiting to do a high-speed taxi run,
but I had to leave before that.

The 609 in real life is stylish, neat. I believe there is a market
for civil tilt rotor. I also think there's a market for a high-speed
coaxial. You have to pick your market niches.

More important, that sort of development is what the entire US
rotorcraft industry should be doing --- with the avid support of the US
government support. Europe has targeted rotorcraft as an area of
industrial growth. We seem determined to surrender it to them. Maybe
Boeing will get lucky with the A160 or Dragonfly technologies.

HW

 




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