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Old August 16th 12, 11:01 PM posted to alt.global-warming,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Why is a picture ID opposed for voting?

On Aug 16, 2:43*pm, wrote:
In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:

A bunch of rambling, run on, puerile, illogical nonsense, as usual and
posted it to a group where it has no relevance.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...37a3319d0768a7

Laughing, that would apply to your "anal old ladies" assurance that no
id theft can occur at the polls.
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Old August 16th 12, 11:56 PM posted to alt.global-warming,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Why is a picture ID opposed for voting?

In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:
On Aug 16, 2:43Â*pm, wrote:
In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:

A bunch of rambling, run on, puerile, illogical nonsense, as usual and
posted it to a group where it has no relevance.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...37a3319d0768a7

Laughing, that would apply to your "anal old ladies" assurance that no
id theft can occur at the polls.


Logical thinking just isn't your forte, is it, nor is being able to write
beyond a 4th grade level or knowing what USENET groups are appropriate
for what?


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Old August 17th 12, 12:16 AM posted to alt.global-warming,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default OT " Why is a picture ID opposed for voting?"

On Aug 16, 3:56 pm, wrote:" Logical thinking
just isn't your forte"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...a16be965e4314b

On Aug 11, 1:33 pm, wrote:snip"Poll place
officials have to go through some minimum vetting....Everything is
subject to tampering and that is an entirely separate issue." snip
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...7ff51a3bff2e35

laughing, the funny thing is you actually think somebody will give you
a free pass on your contradictory illogical hypocritical replies, and
ad hominem fallacies. I know, you incorrectly think your illogical
opinions actually provide backing for your ignorance and false sense
of security but you are easily fooled. Now because you dont have the
honor and integrity to admit where you contradicted yourself, it would
mean you dont take your posted words seriously. Now that begs the
question if you dont take your own words seriously why should anybody
else care what you have to say?
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Old August 17th 12, 12:33 AM posted to alt.global-warming,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default OT " Why is a picture ID opposed for voting?"

In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:
On Aug 16, 3:56 pm, wrote:" Logical thinking
just isn't your forte"


QED once again.

In the words of Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon.".



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Old August 17th 12, 12:58 AM posted to alt.global-warming,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Why is a picture ID opposed for voting?

On Aug 16, 4:33 pm, wrote:" In the words of
Bugs Bunny"

so when asked to explain your own contradictory words, you quote an
animated character from cartoons, this is after you have used the word
"puerile" as an ad hominem fallacy, WOW, now thats funny. No more
projections on your part, you are a whiny little child who cant admit
when he or she is wrong, and most certainly you cannot take what you
dish out. Lashing out at others as you are doing here, just
demonstrates you cannot deal with your own fallacies/idiocy which is
not my problem. The fact you think you can dodge your own
contradictions is not my problem, but i sure enjoy making you look
like a fool by holding your own words against you.
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Old August 17th 12, 02:44 AM posted to alt.global-warming,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Why is a picture ID opposed for voting?

In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:

Yet another pile of rambling, run on nonsense.

Did you fail Junior High English, are not old enough yet to take Junior
High English, or do you write when you are high to produce English so
bad it is barely at a 4th grade level?



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Old August 17th 12, 06:42 AM posted to alt.global-warming,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Why is a picture ID opposed for voting?

On Aug 16, 1:49 pm, wrote:" A bunch
puerile, illogical nonsense, as usual and posted it to a group where
it has no relevance."
On Aug 16, 4:33 pm, wrote:" In the words of
Bugs Bunny"

On Aug 16, 3:56 pm, wrote:" Logical thinking
just isn't your forte"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...a16be965e4314b
On Aug 11, 1:33 pm, wrote:snip"Poll place
officials have to go through some minimum vetting....Everything is
subject to tampering and that is an entirely separate issue." snip
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...7ff51a3bff2e35

keep going, you are rather amusing,thanks.

On Aug 16, 8:53 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...a8bc4d356ec545
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Old August 17th 12, 05:13 PM posted to alt.global-warming,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Why is a picture ID opposed for voting?

In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:

Yet more puerile, illogical nonsense posted it to a group where it has no
relevance.



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Old August 17th 12, 06:15 PM posted to alt.global-warming,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default OT " Why is a picture ID opposed for voting?"

On Aug 17, 9:13 am, wrote:" Yet more
puerile, illogical nonsense"

On Aug 16, 4:33 pm, wrote:" In the words of
Bugs Bunny"

those are your own words, now thats funny

On Aug 16, 11:43 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...9ab20fd4835bef
You incorrectly tried to isolate the argument, which contradicts your
blanket statement “Everything is subject to tampering”. Then you
ignorantly tried to argue the vetting was full proof and produces a
secure environment, which was proven false by my links, and
contradicted by your blanket statement. Then you argued that because
poll workers "take the whole thing very seriously", a secure
environment would be produced which has been proven false by my links
showing a breach of a secure environment, therefore based on your
logic some dont take the "whole thing seriously". Then you argued
that "anal little old ladies" would produce a secure environment, and
my link showed the "anal little old ladies" doing "funny business", a
failure in your vetting and a demonstration of your false sense of
security. My link showed that in spite of the presence of “room
monitors”, and the vetting process, and anal little old ladies a poll
worker left with the poll stole a “voter roster”, a camera phone image
would have less evidence. My links establish the ignorance of your
argument, while at the same time showing identity theft could
potentially be committed by poll worker(s) with good memory by
matching the stolen or digitally imaged voting roster to the ID’s
presented (date of birth, DL #). The point is by mandating the
presentation of personal information without protection at the polling
place, you are making it easier to conduct identity theft. I have
stated increasing the risk, and your weak attempts to marginalize the
risk have failed. My other links have shown the dangers of sharing
personal information in a public setting (shoulder surfing etc.),
which inherently means people should do things to reduce the risk, not
keep acting with a false sense of security. The "whoop-de-do" on you
part is that you know your argument of a secure vetted environment
have been proven to be false, and that was your childish way of
admitting so. Now your argument is an illogical assumption that if
the crime has not been committed it cannot occur, which is a false
sense of security based on ignorance.

http://www.policeandsheriffspress.com/vic/
"Welcome
Welcome to the Georgia Voter ID System website! This site has been
created for you the Georgia Voter Registrar. As you can see from the
menu there are copies of the Quick Reference Guide, Training Manual,
Frequently Asked Questions section, and Contact Information. We hope
that you enjoy using this site and find it to be helpful."

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/...tenced-for-ste...
"S.F. poll worker sentenced for stealing ballots...
He had with him multipage ballots, the voter roster, a memory card
that recorded the votes cast, a voting machine access key and a poll
worker's cell phone, police said. Nicholas was arrested at his home in
the Ingleside early the next morning, and about 75 ballots were found
in the lagoon two days after election day. He pleaded guilty in
December to unlawfully carrying away or destroying a poll list and
ballots, in violation of the state elections code"

https://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs17-it.htm
"The crime of identity theft is on the rise. According to a February
2012 Javelin Study, identity theft rose 13% from 2010 to 2011. More
than 11.6 million adults became a victim of identity theft in the
United States during 2011. Identity theft was the number one complaint
filed with the Federal Trade Commission's Consumer Sentinel during
2011." Using a variety of methods, criminals steal Social Security
numbers, driver's licenses, credit card numbers, ATM cards, telephone
calling cards, and other pieces of individuals' identities such as
date of birth. They use this information to impersonate their victims,
spending as much money as they can in as short a time as possible
before moving on to someone else's name and identifying information."

http://www.businesscreditfacts.com/p...ource-Identity
"Beware of shoulder surfers. Protect credit cards, driver's licenses
and checks from wandering eyes.

http://www.privacy.ca.gov/consumers/...ty_theft.shtml
"Identity Theft
Identity Theft First Aid
Identity theft is taking someone else's personal information and using
it for an unlawful purpose (California Penal Code Section 530.5). It
is a serious crime with serious consequences. There were 11.6 million
U.S. adults who were victims of identity theft in 2011. That
represents 4.9% of adults, including over a million Californians. The
total cost of identity theft in 2011 was $18 billion. The average
victim spent $354 and 12 hours to resolve the problem and clear up
records."

http://its.virginia.edu/security/idtheft/

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan...tion/na-ohio25
"Ohio poll workers convicted
January 25, 2007
CLEVELAND — Two election workers were convicted Wednesday of rigging a
recount of the 2004 presidential election to avoid a more thorough
review in Ohio's most populous county. Jacqueline Maiden, elections
coordinator of the Cuyahoga County Elections Board, and ballot manager
Kathleen Dreamer each were convicted of a felony count of negligent
misconduct by an elections employee. They also were convicted of one
misdemeanor count each of failure to perform their duty as elections
employees."
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Old August 17th 12, 06:44 PM posted to alt.global-warming,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default OT " Why is a picture ID opposed for voting?"

In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:

Yet another pile of rambling, run on, puerile nonsense.

Did you fail Junior High English, are not old enough yet to take Junior
High English, or do you write when you are high to produce English so
bad it is barely at a 4th grade level and then post it to groups where
it is totally irrelevant?


 




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