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On Jun 27, 3:09*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
There's no distinction between simulation and real flight in this context.. Yes there is. ATC in simulation did not act like it would in the real world. But you wouldn't know this since you don't fly in the real system |
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VOR-DME writes:
You enlisted an ATC service (VFR flight following) they will generally want to know what your intentions are. Yes, the controller asked me two or three times. He thought I had returned to a downwind for my departure runway because I turned east, and I explained that I was just joining a radial from the VOR to go towards my destination. Later, when I abruptly turned east again to switch to the 148 radial, he asked my intentions again, probably thinking I was lost (kinda sorta true). Usually, though, ATC doesn't ask many questions when I have FF, particularly when I'm outside a Class B. This should be an easy question, because if you know what you are doing, you have PLANNED the flight, you know exactly what to expect at any time, and you will endeavor to execute the flight as planned. Yes. If you know what you are doing you will not be surprised by the rate of progress of your airplane, because you are keeping a log that allows you to keep track of progress and respond confidently when ATC requests an anticipated waypoint crossing. I'm unaccustomed to the extremely slow speed of a 152, and I usually don't keep much of a log. If you knew what you were doing you would not 'become nervous' due to not knowing where you are, because you will have planned and execute the methods used to know where you are. Yes. That's why I asked about it. I only count one useful answer so far. You say the 152 is 'pokey’ yet due to your lack of preparation you still manage to be way behind it. I wasn't behind it, I simply wasn't sure about my position, which isn't the same thing. Of course you will not do any of these things, which any real pilot would consider essential to the positive outcome of the flight as you describe it, as you find them tedious and boring. I find some things tedious and boring, others not. It's a risk-benefit analysis. Keeping a log while praticing in the pattern seems unwarranted to me, for example. Keeping a log while flying at night over mountains makes perfect sense, although I don't like to interrupt my scan any more than necessary. |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
writes: Yep, as long as you keep pushing that button to give you a view out the side windows. In this case I was using radio navigation. Which in this case is a less than optimal method. However the point was that if you had ever done any actual flying you would know how trivial the problem is. Odd that I receive so few answers to such a trivial question, then. I answered it almost immediately. How many times do you need to hear the same answer? -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
VOR-DME writes: You enlisted an ATC service (VFR flight following) they will generally want to know what your intentions are. Yes, the controller asked me two or three times. He thought I had returned to a downwind for my departure runway because I turned east, and I explained that I was just joining a radial from the VOR to go towards my destination. Later, when I abruptly turned east again to switch to the 148 radial, he asked my intentions again, probably thinking I was lost (kinda sorta true). Usually, though, ATC doesn't ask many questions when I have FF, particularly when I'm outside a Class B. This should be an easy question, because if you know what you are doing, you have PLANNED the flight, you know exactly what to expect at any time, and you will endeavor to execute the flight as planned. Yes. If you know what you are doing you will not be surprised by the rate of progress of your airplane, because you are keeping a log that allows you to keep track of progress and respond confidently when ATC requests an anticipated waypoint crossing. I'm unaccustomed to the extremely slow speed of a 152, and I usually don't keep much of a log. If you knew what you were doing you would not 'become nervous' due to not knowing where you are, because you will have planned and execute the methods used to know where you are. Yes. That's why I asked about it. I only count one useful answer so far. You say the 152 is 'pokey’ yet due to your lack of preparation you still manage to be way behind it. I wasn't behind it, I simply wasn't sure about my position, which isn't the same thing. Of course you will not do any of these things, which any real pilot would consider essential to the positive outcome of the flight as you describe it, as you find them tedious and boring. I find some things tedious and boring, others not. It's a risk-benefit analysis. Keeping a log while praticing in the pattern seems unwarranted to me, for example. Keeping a log while flying at night over mountains makes perfect sense, although I don't like to interrupt my scan any more than necessary. You haven't a clue what "log" is being discussed, how you generate one, how you use one, or what its purpose is. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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On Jun 27, 5:51*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes: Yes there is. *ATC in simulation did not act like it would in the real world. The controller was a real person. What did he do that was unrealistic? If you don't know this, then obviously my answer doesn't mean a thing. Oh I forgot, I fly in the real ATC system. I will give you a hint. You were playing in simulated VFR conditions. |
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On Jun 27, 5:58*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
I wasn't behind it, I simply wasn't sure about my position, which isn't the same thing. YES IT IS. |
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