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Old February 27th 04, 06:08 AM
Eric Moore
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Default Pulse Detonation Engines (PDE's)

There's an article on Pulse Detonation Engines at:

http://www.aerotechnews.com/SpaceAnd...y.htm#Space005

How much potential do PDE's have? Will they ever be more than a laboratory
curiousity?
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Old February 28th 04, 02:34 AM
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"Eric Moore"
There's an article on Pulse Detonation Engines at:

http://www.aerotechnews.com/SpaceAnd...y.htm#Space005

How much potential do PDE's have? Will they ever be more than a

laboratory
curiousity?


Wasn't the German V1 buzz bomb powered by a PDE pulse jet? Perhaps a
crude one but still a pulse detonation engine of sorts.
Ed Majden


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Old February 28th 04, 10:23 AM
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In article x6T%b.633685$X%5.440608@pd7tw2no, says...

"Eric Moore"
There's an article on Pulse Detonation Engines at:

http://www.aerotechnews.com/SpaceAnd...y.htm#Space005

How much potential do PDE's have? Will they ever be more than a

laboratory
curiousity?


Wasn't the German V1 buzz bomb powered by a PDE pulse jet? Perhaps a
crude one but still a pulse detonation engine of sorts.
Ed Majden




Yes.



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Old February 28th 04, 10:53 AM
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Bernardz wrote:

In article x6T%b.633685$X%5.440608@pd7tw2no, says...

"Eric Moore"
There's an article on Pulse Detonation Engines at:

http://www.aerotechnews.com/SpaceAnd...y.htm#Space005

How much potential do PDE's have? Will they ever be more than a

laboratory
curiousity?


Wasn't the German V1 buzz bomb powered by a PDE pulse jet? Perhaps a
crude one but still a pulse detonation engine of sorts.
Ed Majden




Yes.


Nope. Pulse-burn. Much less efficient.



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Old February 28th 04, 03:16 PM
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"Ed Majden" wrote in
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Wasn't the German V1 buzz bomb powered by a PDE pulse jet? Perhaps a
crude one but still a pulse detonation engine of sorts.
Ed Majden



That's where the "buzz" came from! 8-)

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Old February 28th 04, 04:12 PM
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"Grantland"
Nope. Pulse-burn. Much less efficient.

Symantics! It was a pulse jet! Bomarc SAM was a Ram jet and operated
on a different principal but was quite effective as a propulsion system
after getting up to speed by solid booster on the B-model.
Ed


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Old February 28th 04, 04:39 PM
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"Ed Majden" wrote:


"Grantland"
Nope. Pulse-burn. Much less efficient.

Symantics! It was a pulse jet!


Ed

Nope. And what's a ramjet got to do with anything?
Another clumsy hoopster.

Grantland
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Old February 28th 04, 05:22 PM
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"Grantland" "Grantland"
Nope. Pulse-burn. Much less efficient.

Symantics! It was a pulse jet!




Fiesler Fi-103 (V1) Specifications

Engine: Argus pulse-jet
600 pounds of thrust
Length: 25' 4"
Wingspan: 17' 6"
Weight: 4800 lbs. Fully fueled
Fuel: 150 gallons of Acetylene gas
1 mile per gallon
Range: Approximately 160 miles from launch site
Performance: Speed between 360-400 mph
Flew at altitude of 2000-3000 ft
Average flight time of 22 minutes
Armament: 2337 pound war head

Not as efficient, but still an early prototype PULSE JET!!! Different
principal perhaps! Time marches on and so do design techniques.




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Old February 28th 04, 05:38 PM
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"Ed Majden" wrote:


"Grantland" "Grantland"
Nope. Pulse-burn. Much less efficient.

Symantics! It was a pulse jet!




Fiesler Fi-103 (V1) Specifications

Engine: Argus pulse-jet
600 pounds of thrust
Length: 25' 4"
Wingspan: 17' 6"
Weight: 4800 lbs. Fully fueled
Fuel: 150 gallons of Acetylene gas
1 mile per gallon
Range: Approximately 160 miles from launch site
Performance: Speed between 360-400 mph
Flew at altitude of 2000-3000 ft
Average flight time of 22 minutes
Armament: 2337 pound war head

Not as efficient, but still an early prototype PULSE JET!!! Different
principal perhaps! Time marches on and so do design techniques.

Yes? I never disputed pulse jet. Pulse detonation has been a holy
grail for years. Pulse burn is very inefficient.

Grantland

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Old March 1st 04, 02:57 AM
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If this PDE research pans out, what would such an engine be used on?

A high-speed, high-altitude cruise missile (Something like FastHawk or
ARRMD)?

An SR-71 replacement (possibly manned, but probably not)?

The first stage of a two stage reusuable space launch system?

Something else?
 




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