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Old September 3rd 06, 04:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Emily writes:

But you just said that all communications are air-ground. You can't
back pedal.


I can expect others here to have at least a basic knowledge of how
such communications work.

We do. You don't. All communications are NOT air-ground. Disagree?
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Old September 3rd 06, 04:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Emily writes:

Speaking as someone who works for an OEM that works with the latest
cutting edge technology, Thomas is entirely correct.


Famous last words again. OEMs that work with cutting-edge technology
are particularly prone to mess up.

We haven't yet, in almost 100 years.
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Old September 3rd 06, 04:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Emily writes:

I wasn't reading the NTSB report.


It might not hurt to read the reports now, before criticizing anyone
else for not doing research.

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Old September 3rd 06, 04:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Emily writes:

I think there was some confusion here. I wasn't saying that he never
heard ATC at all, just that the transmission confusion was due to the
heterodyne, not static or poor transmission quality.


But it wasn't. There were multiple transmissions that were
misunderstood, not just the two that were simultaneous.

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Old September 3rd 06, 04:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Thomas Borchert writes:

So I guess you can point to the accidents caused by Windows-based glass
cockpits as well as you pointed to sources for accidents caused by AM
radios?


Not yet.

As far as I know (and hope), these cockpits don't have any trace of
Windows running in them. If they do, the situation is much more dire
than I had feared.

The problem is that the ergonomy of the systems is shifting towards a
desktop PC model, instead of an aviation model.

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Old September 3rd 06, 05:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Emily writes:

All communications are NOT air-ground.


If there is a controller on the channel, they are.

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Old September 3rd 06, 05:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Emily writes:

We haven't yet, in almost 100 years.


Cutting-edge technology is relatively new in its current profusion,
and there's always a first time. Will you bet your life on it?

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Old September 3rd 06, 05:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Emily writes:

I wasn't reading the NTSB report.


It might not hurt to read the reports now, before criticizing anyone
else for not doing research.

The difference is, I never said I'd read it. YOU did.
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Old September 3rd 06, 05:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Why don't voice radio communications use FM?

Mxsmanic wrote:
Emily writes:

I think there was some confusion here. I wasn't saying that he never
heard ATC at all, just that the transmission confusion was due to the
heterodyne, not static or poor transmission quality.


But it wasn't. There were multiple transmissions that were
misunderstood, not just the two that were simultaneous.

Show me the line where it says AM had anything to do with it.
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Old September 3rd 06, 05:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Emily writes:

All communications are NOT air-ground.


If there is a controller on the channel, they are.

That's not what you said before. You're back pedaling, because someone
mentioned CTAF and you realized you were wrong.
 




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