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China's stealth jet -J-20
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, J wrote: On Jan 7, 2:59*pm, "Keith Willshaw" wrote: On of the problems when dealing with a socity like China is that its hard to know when they have produced a prototype. They tend to look less tolerantly on plane spotters than western natons. Keith, this ignorant civilian would like to know if it is possible for the Chinese to have a good understanding of what is needed to develop this aircraft fully as a result of stealing the information (i.e., hacking military computers)? Cheers . . . J. They have some very good engineers who could come up with some real innovations. That said, if they depend on stolen information, it would be very easy to plant deliberate misinformation in places they can hack (with some effort). That is the flaw in stealind information. |
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China's stealth jet -J-20
On 01/11/2011 11:06 AM, J wrote:
On Jan 7, 2:59 pm, "Keith wrote: On of the problems when dealing with a socity like China is that its hard to know when they have produced a prototype. They tend to look less tolerantly on plane spotters than western natons. Keith, this ignorant civilian would like to know if it is possible for the Chinese to have a good understanding of what is needed to develop this aircraft fully as a result of stealing the information (i.e., hacking military computers)? The fundamental physics isn't a secret, it's to do with transmission line theory. After that it's just engineering. -- William Black "Any number under six" The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff. |
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China's stealth jet -J-20
On 1/11/2011 12:24 PM, Orval Fairbairn wrote:
In article , wrote: On Jan 7, 2:59 pm, "Keith wrote: On of the problems when dealing with a socity like China is that its hard to know when they have produced a prototype. They tend to look less tolerantly on plane spotters than western natons. Keith, this ignorant civilian would like to know if it is possible for the Chinese to have a good understanding of what is needed to develop this aircraft fully as a result of stealing the information (i.e., hacking military computers)? Cheers . . . J. They have some very good engineers who could come up with some real innovations. That said, if they depend on stolen information, it would be very easy to plant deliberate misinformation in places they can hack (with some effort). That is the flaw in stealind information. Let them steal a chip design with a built in flaw such that it can be remotely commanded to cause major system failure. Essentially one could get the Red Chinese to construct an airplane with a built in bomb. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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China's stealth jet -J-20
Dan wrote:
On 1/11/2011 12:24 PM, Orval Fairbairn wrote: In article , wrote: On Jan 7, 2:59 pm, "Keith wrote: On of the problems when dealing with a socity like China is that its hard to know when they have produced a prototype. They tend to look less tolerantly on plane spotters than western natons. Keith, this ignorant civilian would like to know if it is possible for the Chinese to have a good understanding of what is needed to develop this aircraft fully as a result of stealing the information (i.e., hacking military computers)? Cheers . . . J. They have some very good engineers who could come up with some real innovations. That said, if they depend on stolen information, it would be very easy to plant deliberate misinformation in places they can hack (with some effort). That is the flaw in stealind information. Let them steal a chip design with a built in flaw such that it can be remotely commanded to cause major system failure. Essentially one could get the Red Chinese to construct an airplane with a built in bomb. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Reverse engineering. Ever heard of it? ;-) |
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China's stealth jet -J-20
On 1/11/2011 12:57 PM, Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D. wrote:
Dan wrote: On 1/11/2011 12:24 PM, Orval Fairbairn wrote: In article , wrote: On Jan 7, 2:59 pm, "Keith wrote: On of the problems when dealing with a socity like China is that its hard to know when they have produced a prototype. They tend to look less tolerantly on plane spotters than western natons. Keith, this ignorant civilian would like to know if it is possible for the Chinese to have a good understanding of what is needed to develop this aircraft fully as a result of stealing the information (i.e., hacking military computers)? Cheers . . . J. They have some very good engineers who could come up with some real innovations. That said, if they depend on stolen information, it would be very easy to plant deliberate misinformation in places they can hack (with some effort). That is the flaw in stealind information. Let them steal a chip design with a built in flaw such that it can be remotely commanded to cause major system failure. Essentially one could get the Red Chinese to construct an airplane with a built in bomb. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Reverse engineering. Ever heard of it? ;-) Yah, ask Toyota, Nissan and Honda how well that went when they stole Chrysler blind on the throttle. It made Chrysler have to recall a couple of hundred thousand cars just to make sure that their system was good. It was. Toyota and other Japanese companies bought the same equipment from the same suppliers. The problem was, the control unit was stupid and they had to reverse engineer the coding. They blew it. In the Chrysler, there is a build in system where if something goes wrong with the controller it disengages the throttle. And if you tap the brake, it disengages the throttle. Guess what, they left out those last two items and them lied to the public and Congress about it. Yes, let them reverse engineer that way there is more likelihood that they will screw the pooch. |
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China's stealth jet -J-20
On 11/01/2011 18:53, Dan wrote:
{snip} Let them steal a chip design with a built in flaw such that it can be remotely commanded to cause major system failure. Essentially one could get the Red Chinese to construct an airplane with a built in bomb. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired The danger with that one is that our own aeroplanes have the save flaw. Andrew Swallow |
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On Jan 11, 12:27*pm, Juergen Nieveler
wrote: Dan wrote: * *Let them steal a chip design with a built in flaw such that it can be remotely commanded to cause major system failure. Essentially one could get the Red Chinese to construct an airplane with a built in bomb. One that lets a plane fly into a building by accident? No you are thinking of the chipsets in the entire airbus fleet. 8^) |
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China's stealth jet -J-20
On 1/11/2011 4:42 PM, Andrew Swallow wrote:
On 11/01/2011 18:53, Dan wrote: {snip} Let them steal a chip design with a built in flaw such that it can be remotely commanded to cause major system failure. Essentially one could get the Red Chinese to construct an airplane with a built in bomb. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired The danger with that one is that our own aeroplanes have the save flaw. Andrew Swallow Not if done right. Letting the bad guys assume you use it doesn't mean you have to actually do so. Think of the phantom army Patton ran prior to Overlord. The Nazis assumed it existed. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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China's stealth jet -J-20
On Jan 11, 12:57*pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D."
wrote: Dan wrote: On 1/11/2011 12:24 PM, Orval Fairbairn wrote: In article , * *wrote: On Jan 7, 2:59 pm, "Keith *wrote: On of the problems when dealing with a socity like China is that its hard to know when they have produced a prototype. They tend to look less tolerantly on plane spotters than western natons. Keith, this ignorant civilian would like to know if it is possible for the Chinese to have a good understanding of what is needed to develop this aircraft fully as a result of stealing the information (i.e., hacking military computers)? Cheers . . . J. They have some very good engineers who could come up with some real innovations. That said, if they depend on stolen information, it would be very easy to plant deliberate misinformation in places they can hack (with some effort). That is the flaw in stealind information. * Let them steal a chip design with a built in flaw such that it can be remotely commanded to cause major system failure. Essentially one could get the Red Chinese to construct an airplane with a built in bomb. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Reverse engineering. *Ever heard of it? ;-) You obviously haven't...**** eating trolls like you and the nazi's around here need to **** off. |
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China's stealth jet -J-20
On 1/11/2011 1:57 PM, Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D. wrote:
Dan wrote: On 1/11/2011 12:24 PM, Orval Fairbairn wrote: In article , wrote: On Jan 7, 2:59 pm, "Keith wrote: On of the problems when dealing with a socity like China is that its hard to know when they have produced a prototype. They tend to look less tolerantly on plane spotters than western natons. Keith, this ignorant civilian would like to know if it is possible for the Chinese to have a good understanding of what is needed to develop this aircraft fully as a result of stealing the information (i.e., hacking military computers)? Cheers . . . J. They have some very good engineers who could come up with some real innovations. That said, if they depend on stolen information, it would be very easy to plant deliberate misinformation in places they can hack (with some effort). That is the flaw in stealind information. Let them steal a chip design with a built in flaw such that it can be remotely commanded to cause major system failure. Essentially one could get the Red Chinese to construct an airplane with a built in bomb. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Reverse engineering. Ever heard of it? ;-) Ever heard of getting a degree from a university that teaches reading for comprehension? Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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