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Hercs used for anti-ship bombing by Argentina
"a425couple" wrote in message ... Yes, a Herc was used for anti-ship bombing. You gotta love people who improvise in wartime! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Ward "the Argentinians had been using a C-130 to attack merchant ships re-supplying the task force by simply pushing a bomb out of the back of the aircraft as it flew over (one bomb struck a ship, but bounced off to no effect)." from my follow up reading from "Guy" -- wrote in message... I have just re-read Sharkey Wards 'Sea Harrier over the Falklands' and was amused to read, at the end of the book a 'discussion' between 3 of his officers (801 Sdn) and a Herc pilot fresh from Lyneham, Don't forget the VNAF: they used Hercs as bombers during the final days in '75 against the advancing NVA. Pakistani AF Hercs were also used as bombers in '65 and in '71 reportedly. |
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Hercs used for anti-ship bombing by Argentina
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 23:20:44 -0800, Matt Wiser wrote:
"a425couple" wrote in message ... Yes, a Herc was used for anti-ship bombing. You gotta love people who improvise in wartime! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Ward "the Argentinians had been using a C-130 to attack merchant ships re-supplying the task force by simply pushing a bomb out of the back of the aircraft as it flew over (one bomb struck a ship, but bounced off to no effect)." from my follow up reading from "Guy" -- wrote in message... I have just re-read Sharkey Wards 'Sea Harrier over the Falklands' and was amused to read, at the end of the book a 'discussion' between 3 of his officers (801 Sdn) and a Herc pilot fresh from Lyneham, Don't forget the VNAF: they used Hercs as bombers during the final days in '75 against the advancing NVA. Pakistani AF Hercs were also used as bombers in '65 and in '71 reportedly. So the record shows that if you use C130's to drop bombs you get a serious thrashing. And so the moral is...? -- William Black Free men have open minds If you want loyalty, buy a dog... |
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Hercs used for anti-ship bombing by Argentina
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:06:59 -0500, Ray O'Hara wrote:
that they hit anything is amazing. Fortunately for the UK the Argie Army and Navy didn't have the balls the Argie Air Force had. They had the balls alright, they just didn't have the leadership. Leadership for an airforce fighting a single entity isn't that difficult, you just load up the weapons and send your young men out to die. With an army or a navy you need slightly more intelligence. The Argentine army and navy had spent the past decade fighting highly dangerous intellectuals and,, now and again, a lethal trade union official or even a journalist armed with highly explosive printing presses. When they came up against people with guns they were in real trouble because they weren't used to people who could shoot back. -- William Black Free men have open minds If you want loyalty, buy a dog... |
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Hercs used for anti-ship bombing by Argentina
On 17/01/2012 02:28, David E. Powell wrote:
The guys on the Argentinian GUPPY boat drove their sub about as hard as they could. The Santa Fe? Not really, they were caught on the surface and crippled before they knew they were under attack. (Chris Parry, later to make flag rank and run the Maritime Warfare Centre and then the Joint Doctrine & Concepts Centre, may have owed some of his career to being the observer that guided the Wessex in for a radar-guided attack in fog). Similarly, the San Luis - a newer German-built Type 209 - caused some irritation, but can hardly be said to have been "hard driven" (imagine what a determinedly-driven small diesel boat could have achieved amongst the San Carlos landings, for a nightmare scenario) Unfortunately for the Argentine Navy in particular, actually fighting a war turned out to be much more difficult than interrogating attractive female dissidents aboard the ESMA, hence their decision to hide-with-pride throughout the conflict. -- He thinks too much, such men are dangerous. |
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Hercs used for anti-ship bombing by Argentina
"a425couple" wrote in
: "John Szalay" john.szalayATatt.net wrote in message... "David E. Powell" wrote in The problem with the Hercules bomber was rather more fundmental. KC-130J Harvest hawk might have been useful just a little late.. http://www.marines.mil/unit/mcascher...HarvestHawk201 10401 .aspx#.TxTf86WXTNU Wow!! neat. Obviously, could of been very useful, but a lot changes in 30 years. Really, 30 years since the Falklands! How old is that plane!! It sure was not new when I got carted around in them? First flew in 1954!!! The J models are only a few years old. But remember the Hercs during Viet-nam with the Firebee & ALQ-34 drones. some of that era could have been made into attack missles if they had thought that out.. but the Argies didn,t have anything like that. http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_344.shtml |
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Hercs used for anti-ship bombing by Argentina
On Jan 17, 12:11*am, bill wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 23:20:44 -0800, Matt Wiser wrote: "a425couple" wrote in message ... Yes, a Herc was used for anti-ship bombing. You gotta love people who improvise in wartime!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Ward "the Argentinians had been using a C-130 to attack merchant ships re-supplying the task force by simply pushing a bomb out of the back of the aircraft as it flew over (one bomb struck a ship, but bounced off to no effect)." from my follow up reading from "Guy" -- wrote in message... I have just re-read Sharkey Wards 'Sea Harrier over the Falklands' and was amused to read, at the end of the book a 'discussion' between 3 of his officers (801 Sdn) and a Herc pilot fresh from Lyneham, Don't forget the VNAF: they used Hercs as bombers during the final days in '75 against the advancing NVA. Pakistani AF Hercs were also used as bombers in '65 and in '71 reportedly. So the record shows that if you use C130's to drop bombs you get a serious thrashing. And so the moral is...? -- William Black Free men have open minds If you want loyalty, *buy a dog...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If you don't have real bombers at your disposal, improvise, Even if it's a losing effort, do the best you can. |
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Hercs used for anti-ship bombing by Argentina
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:33:52 -0800, Matt Wiser wrote:
On Jan 17, 12:11Â*am, bill wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 23:20:44 -0800, Matt Wiser wrote: "a425couple" wrote in message ... Yes, a Herc was used for anti-ship bombing. You gotta love people who improvise in wartime!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Ward "the Argentinians had been using a C-130 to attack merchant ships re-supplying the task force by simply pushing a bomb out of the back of the aircraft as it flew over (one bomb struck a ship, but bounced off to no effect)." from my follow up reading from "Guy" -- wrote in message... I have just re-read Sharkey Wards 'Sea Harrier over the Falklands' and was amused to read, at the end of the book a 'discussion' between 3 of his officers (801 Sdn) and a Herc pilot fresh from Lyneham, Don't forget the VNAF: they used Hercs as bombers during the final days in '75 against the advancing NVA. Pakistani AF Hercs were also used as bombers in '65 and in '71 reportedly. So the record shows that if you use C130's to drop bombs you get a serious thrashing. And so the moral is...? -- William Black Free men have open minds If you want loyalty, Â*buy a dog...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If you don't have real bombers at your disposal, improvise, Even if it's a losing effort, do the best you can. Depends. If your targeting is so bad that you **** of a super-power you'd be better off not even trying... -- William Black Free men have open minds If you want loyalty, buy a dog... |
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