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Neil Lawson and Accident Investigation
I have been upset by some of the exchange of 'views'
on this tragic accident. Many have already pointed out that until the facts are known, it is dangerous and irresponsible to speculate as to the cause(s). I was not at Husbands Bosworth on Tuesday, but as BGA Chairman I was phoned within a matter of minutes of the accident, and I visited HB on Thursday - to host a BGA VIP day which everyone agreed should go ahead, not least because it was thought that that would be what Neil would have wished. Our guests were unanimous in their support and understanding. The facts of this accident will be determined by the UK Air Accidents Investigation Branch and their report will be submitted in draft to myself acting on behalf of the BGA, and considered by the BGA Executive Committee. AAIB reports determine the facts. They do not apportion blame, but they do make recommendations. Normally this process takes a few months as there are witness statements etc to consider and many other sources of the facts before a report can be submitted. I was at HB last Saturday (6th) and witnessed the finishes on the first competition day. The competition organisation had set a control point about 10km from the airfield so that the final leg was in direct line with the E-W runway. Without exception all pilots made a 'straight-in' finish and landing without a pull up and circuit. The airfield's only grass runway is about 1 mile long. I was very impressed with the airmanship of all junior pilots in their straight-in approaches, using the radio to agree who was landing on which side when two or more gliders were in close proximity. It was also noticeable that the vast majority did not have excessive speed, over and above that which is prudent when making a final glide from many miles out and leaving enough energy in hand to deal with a situation of possibly not reaching the airfield in the last mile or two. The maturity of the junior pilots' airmanship was in contrast to some of the competitors at less elevated contests I have attended over many years. I have been informed, informally, that the same procedure occurred on Tuesday, and that there were no 'beat-ups'. Clearly I have more relevant information that is at this stage privy to the investigation, and therefore it is not appropriate to provide it in this forum. So, PLEASE, restrain from speculation, and instead pay tribute to a person who was a real gentleman, a delight to know, and who was in my view one of the, if not THE best photographers of our wonderful sport. His legacy is the pictures he took and which encapsulate the beauty of free flight. The loss of Neil has hit the gliding community in the UK, and much further afield, very severely. Our thoughts are with his family and friends, as indeed they are with the pilot involved. David Roberts Chairman, British Gliding Association |
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"David Roberts" wrote in message ... I was at HB last Saturday (6th) and witnessed the finishes on the first competition day. The competition organisation had set a control point about 10km from the airfield so that the final leg was in direct line with the E-W runway. Without exception all pilots made a 'straight-in' finish and landing without a pull up and circuit. The airfield's only grass runway is about 1 mile long. I was very impressed with the airmanship of all junior pilots in their straight-in approaches, using the radio to agree who was landing on which side when two or more gliders were in close proximity. It was also noticeable that the vast majority did not have excessive speed, over and above that which is prudent when making a final glide from many miles out and leaving enough energy in hand to deal with a situation of possibly not reaching the airfield in the last mile or two. The maturity of the junior pilots' airmanship was in contrast to some of the competitors at less elevated contests I have attended over many years. I have been informed, informally, that the same procedure occurred on Tuesday, and that there were no 'beat-ups'. .. The loss of Neil has hit the gliding community in the UK, and much further afield, very severely. Our thoughts are with his family and friends, as indeed they are with the pilot involved. David Roberts Chairman, British Gliding Association Out thoughts should also be with the pilot who while performing one of these sensible straight in approaches, hit a 12ft high obstruction that had not been there on the previous 2 days and now has to live with the consequenses. Basil |
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Anyone who would like to look for themselves at the airfield layout, the
position of the finish lines, and the tasking to the finishes; can do so by looking at the Junior Worlds competition website. Go to http://www.worldgliding2005.com/ , click on "tasks" http://www.worldgliding2005.com/tasks.php , for the accident task click on 09.08.2005 Club http://www.worldgliding2005.com/tasks/club%204%20A.pdf ; or click on "results & starts" 09.08.2005 Club http://www.worldgliding2005.com/results.php , where the task is given at the top of the score sheet. For the airfield layout go to "documents and rules" http://www.worldgliding2005.com/docs.php , click on "Airfield Layout" http://www.worldgliding2005.com/docs...d%20Layout.pdf . W.J. (Bill) Dean (U.K.). Remove "ic" to reply. "David Roberts" wrote in message ... I have been upset by some of the exchange of 'views' on this tragic accident. Many have already pointed out that until the facts are known, it is dangerous and irresponsible to speculate as to the cause(s). snip |
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I agree entirely with the views expressed by Dave Roberts.
In addition this matter is being investigated by the police both for HM Coroner and the Crown Prosecution Service. The powers of the AAIB are insignificant when compared with those of HM Coroner and it would be very unwise to try and second guess the findings of his court. You may feel that known 'facts' could be provided by the release of information before the conclusion of the investigation but this could not only be incomplete but also unlawful. There is no alternative but to wait for the conclusion of the legal processes. I am also appalled by the insensitivity of some of the postings when a very talented man has lost his life doing something which has brought so much pleasure to so many in the gliding fraternity and I hope that his family and close friends do not ever read some of the things that have been said. It is time to give thanks for the life and work of Neil, not to pursue personal agendas. At 22:30 12 August 2005, David Roberts wrote: I have been upset by some of the exchange of 'views' on this tragic accident. Many have already pointed out that until the facts are known, it is dangerous and irresponsible to speculate as to the cause(s). I was not at Husbands Bosworth on Tuesday, but as BGA Chairman I was phoned within a matter of minutes of the accident, and I visited HB on Thursday - to host a BGA VIP day which everyone agreed should go ahead, not least because it was thought that that would be what Neil would have wished. Our guests were unanimous in their support and understanding. The facts of this accident will be determined by the UK Air Accidents Investigation Branch and their report will be submitted in draft to myself acting on behalf of the BGA, and considered by the BGA Executive Committee. AAIB reports determine the facts. They do not apportion blame, but they do make recommendations. Normally this process takes a few months as there are witness statements etc to consider and many other sources of the facts before a report can be submitted. I was at HB last Saturday (6th) and witnessed the finishes on the first competition day. The competition organisation had set a control point about 10km from the airfield so that the final leg was in direct line with the E-W runway. Without exception all pilots made a 'straight-in' finish and landing without a pull up and circuit. The airfield's only grass runway is about 1 mile long. I was very impressed with the airmanship of all junior pilots in their straight-in approaches, using the radio to agree who was landing on which side when two or more gliders were in close proximity. It was also noticeable that the vast majority did not have excessive speed, over and above that which is prudent when making a final glide from many miles out and leaving enough energy in hand to deal with a situation of possibly not reaching the airfield in the last mile or two. The maturity of the junior pilots' airmanship was in contrast to some of the competitors at less elevated contests I have attended over many years. I have been informed, informally, that the same procedure occurred on Tuesday, and that there were no 'beat-ups'. Clearly I have more relevant information that is at this stage privy to the investigation, and therefore it is not appropriate to provide it in this forum. So, PLEASE, restrain from speculation, and instead pay tribute to a person who was a real gentleman, a delight to know, and who was in my view one of the, if not THE best photographers of our wonderful sport. His legacy is the pictures he took and which encapsulate the beauty of free flight. The loss of Neil has hit the gliding community in the UK, and much further afield, very severely. Our thoughts are with his family and friends, as indeed they are with the pilot involved. David Roberts Chairman, British Gliding Association |
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At 22:12 13 August 2005, Don Johnstone wrote:
I am also appalled by the insensitivity of some of the postings when a very talented man has lost his life doing something which has brought so much pleasure to so many in the gliding fraternity and I hope that his family and close friends do not ever read some of the things that have been said. It is time to give thanks for the life and work of Neil, not to pursue personal agendas. Amen. Rest in peace. |
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I was visiting Hus Bos on the second contest day.
I met Neil that morning and we talked for a while. During the finishes I saw him standing near the finish line wearing a high visibility vest. I saw a few spectacular finishes like real life scenes from the video UK-Smokin. Several junior pilots flew their gliders at high speed below the tree-line about one Km from the finish line, then pulled up over the trees and the last part was flown just at a few inches above the ground of a field that is not a part of the airfield. Obviously this is normal practice and nobody received an official warning. I was very shocked when I heard that Neil was hit by a glider on Tuesday. Such a waste of a wonderful person! I think that a spectacular finish is not worth the life of any person. The way finishes are sometimes performed and allowed at Hus Bos is IMHO a contributing factor to this very tragic accident. My sincere condolences to Neil's family and close friends. Ruud. |
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Ruud
If you have evidence which you feel is pertinent to the incident as Husbands Bosworth then this should be communicated to Leicestershire Constabulary who are charged with the investigation on behalf of HM Coroner. I would respectfully suggest that this forum is not the place for an allegation which could be interpreted as an accusation of negligence with respect to an incident which is subject to an ongoing investigation. I think you need to think very carefully about your motivation in making the statement you have and the possible effects. Your humble opinion may be cogent but I say again that now may not the time to express such opinions on a public forum. I do not dispute your right to voice your opinion but perhaps you should consider what the wishes of Neil might have been and what the wishes of his family and friends might be in these tragic circumstances. At 14:18 14 August 2005, Ruud wrote: I was visiting Hus Bos on the second contest day. I met Neil that morning and we talked for a while. During the finishes I saw him standing near the finish line wearing a high visibility vest. I saw a few spectacular finishes like real life scenes from the video UK-Smokin. Several junior pilots flew their gliders at high speed below the tree-line about one Km from the finish line, then pulled up over the trees and the last part was flown just at a few inches above the ground of a field that is not a part of the airfield. Obviously this is normal practice and nobody received an official warning. I was very shocked when I heard that Neil was hit by a glider on Tuesday. Such a waste of a wonderful person! I think that a spectacular finish is not worth the life of any person. The way finishes are sometimes performed and allowed at Hus Bos is IMHO a contributing factor to this very tragic accident. My sincere condolences to Neil's family and close friends. Ruud. |
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:27:38 UTC, Don Johnstone
wrote: : but perhaps you should : consider what the wishes of Neil might have been Hmm. That's all very well to say, but I bet he would rather not have been hit by a glider. Ian -- |
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Don,
I'm not doing any allegations in my posting. An accident always has a chain of events leading to it. You can't simply pinpoint one of the links in the chain as *the* cause of this tragic accident. My thoughts are also with the pilot who was involved. It must have been a terrible schocking experience for him and I hope he's getting lots of help and support from his team and BGA. He was only one of the links in the chain of events. Ruud. On 14 Aug 2005 17:27:38 GMT, Don Johnstone wrote: Ruud If you have evidence which you feel is pertinent to the incident as Husbands Bosworth then this should be communicated to Leicestershire Constabulary who are charged with the investigation on behalf of HM Coroner. I would respectfully suggest that this forum is not the place for an allegation which could be interpreted as an accusation of negligence with respect to an incident which is subject to an ongoing investigation. I think you need to think very carefully about your motivation in making the statement you have and the possible effects. Your humble opinion may be cogent but I say again that now may not the time to express such opinions on a public forum. I do not dispute your right to voice your opinion but perhaps you should consider what the wishes of Neil might have been and what the wishes of his family and friends might be in these tragic circumstances. At 14:18 14 August 2005, Ruud wrote: I was visiting Hus Bos on the second contest day. I met Neil that morning and we talked for a while. During the finishes I saw him standing near the finish line wearing a high visibility vest. I saw a few spectacular finishes like real life scenes from the video UK-Smokin. Several junior pilots flew their gliders at high speed below the tree-line about one Km from the finish line, then pulled up over the trees and the last part was flown just at a few inches above the ground of a field that is not a part of the airfield. Obviously this is normal practice and nobody received an official warning. I was very shocked when I heard that Neil was hit by a glider on Tuesday. Such a waste of a wonderful person! I think that a spectacular finish is not worth the life of any person. The way finishes are sometimes performed and allowed at Hus Bos is IMHO a contributing factor to this very tragic accident. My sincere condolences to Neil's family and close friends. Ruud. |
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