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Old November 21st 06, 05:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
randall g
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Here in Vancouver BC, Nav Canada is proposing some airspace changes.
Among other things they are pushing "voluntary CAS (collision avoidance
system)" on the grounds that they believe it is affordable now. Is it
really? Anybody have this?

A cryptic PP presentation of the proposed changes is he

http://navcanada.ca/ContentDefinitio...oposals_EN.pdf


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Old November 21st 06, 10:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
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"randall g" wrote in message
...
Here in Vancouver BC, Nav Canada is proposing some airspace changes.
Among other things they are pushing "voluntary CAS (collision avoidance
system)" on the grounds that they believe it is affordable now. Is it
really? Anybody have this?

A cryptic PP presentation of the proposed changes is he

http://navcanada.ca/ContentDefinitio...oposals_EN.pdf


randall g =%^) PPASEL+Night 1974 Cardinal RG
http://www.telemark.net/randallg
Lots of aerial photographs of British Columbia at:
http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos.htm
Vancouver's famous Kat Kam: http://www.katkam.ca


http://wingsandwheels.com/page4.htm

msrp $499 U.S.

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Old November 21st 06, 11:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Robert M. Gary
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I have PCAS in my Mooney and TIS in the 182. The PCAS can be useful to
get you to start looking around. However, at times it seems to be more
annoying. I'll get alarms that an aircraft is w/i .02 miles and never
see anything.

-Robert


randall g wrote:
Here in Vancouver BC, Nav Canada is proposing some airspace changes.
Among other things they are pushing "voluntary CAS (collision avoidance
system)" on the grounds that they believe it is affordable now. Is it
really? Anybody have this?

A cryptic PP presentation of the proposed changes is he

http://navcanada.ca/ContentDefinitio...oposals_EN.pdf


randall g =%^) PPASEL+Night 1974 Cardinal RG
http://www.telemark.net/randallg
Lots of aerial photographs of British Columbia at:
http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos.htm
Vancouver's famous Kat Kam: http://www.katkam.ca


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Old November 22nd 06, 02:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
Vaughn Simon
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote in message
news:xPadnYBRK98MH_7YnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@wideopenwest .com...

http://wingsandwheels.com/page4.htm

msrp $499 U.S.


If my information is correct, that particular unit would be dandy in a
glider, but you won't be able to hear it in a typical light plane. It has that
tiny speaker and no way to connect to your headset or audio panel. To be of any
use, you would have to discipline yourself to include it in your visual scan.


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Old November 23rd 06, 07:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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On 21-Nov-2006, "Vaughn Simon" wrote:

http://wingsandwheels.com/page4.htm

msrp $499 U.S.


If my information is correct, that particular unit would be dandy in
a
glider, but you won't be able to hear it in a typical light plane. It has
that tiny speaker and no way to connect to your headset or audio panel.
To be
of any use, you would have to discipline yourself to include it in your
visual
scan.




We have one in our Arrow, and I'd say it works as advertised. We just put
it on the glareshield, and it stays put in light turbulence. I wear an
older Bose headset, and I can just hear the audio alerts. The biggest
problem is that its high intensity LED display is unreadable in direct
sunlight. I fashioned a cardboard shade for it that helps.


-Elliott Drucker
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Old November 23rd 06, 11:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Vaughn Simon
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wrote in message
newsim9h.8081$LH2.4405@trndny04...

We have one in our Arrow, and I'd say it works as advertised. We just put
it on the glareshield, and it stays put in light turbulence. I wear an
older Bose headset, and I can just hear the audio alerts. The biggest
problem is that its high intensity LED display is unreadable in direct
sunlight. I fashioned a cardboard shade for it that helps.


Even worse than I thought. Others have told me that the light shows up
well, now it seems that is not necessarily the case. With my "old man's"
hearing, even before I started flying with ANL I seldom heard the typical stall
horn in a Cessna (something else that should be updated and wired to the audio
panel).

I really doubt that I would ever hear the tiny speaker on that unit over the din
of your average SEL plane and through the attenuation of my headset. It is
truly a shame, just the simple addition of a cheap headset interface could
elevate that little gizmo from a virtually usless gadget to a "must have".



 




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