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Old June 25th 19, 09:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John McLaughlin
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Default Ventus rigging advice, please?

I've recently started flying a Ventus2. I can't rig the thing without a lot
of
struggle. The trouble is, there's a cover above the spars and you can't see

anything once the first wing is in.

I struggle to get the second wing to fit, never knowing whether it's a bit
too
high or a bit too low. The ground is uneven and sloping, which doesn't
help.

I hope some Ventus owners can give me some tips, please?

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Old June 25th 19, 10:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Ventus rigging advice, please?

Set the flaps to 0.
Set the airbrake lever 1 inch towards open position.
Close the water valve lever.

Prepare a wing support for the first wing.
Mount first wing. When in, standing at the wing root, lean over the fuselage and feel that the spar is in the horisontal middle of the hole. Fixate the wing stand and recheck that the first wing spar is at the rigt oplace, middle of the hole.
Mount second wing. Here it's up to the tip holder to feel the right height.

A little practice, and it's no hazzle.
Some Schempp Hirths are too tight Fit though.

Reg Per, v2ct
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Old June 25th 19, 02:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Shaun McLaughlin[_2_]
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Default Ventus rigging advice, please?

At 09:17 25 June 2019, wrote:
Set the flaps to 0.
Set the airbrake lever 1 inch towards open position.
Close the water valve lever.

Prepare a wing support for the first wing.
Mount first wing. When in, standing at the wing root, lean over the
fuselage and feel that the spar is in the horisontal middle of the hole.
Fixate the wing stand and recheck that the first wing spar is at the rigt
oplace, middle of the hole.
Mount second wing. Here it's up to the tip holder to feel the right

height.


A little practice, and it's no hazzle.
Some Schempp Hirths are too tight Fit though.

Reg Per, v2ct


I have recently been flying (and rigging!) a V2a. In addition to the points
above, the Owner had a good tip (which can be applied to many types), which
is to apply the tape immediately on the upper surface of the 1st wing, to
keep it from being pushed out. (I used to part insert the main pin on my
old Cirrus for a similar effect, as the hole was offset) This is more of an
issue with SH gliders as the wing spar has a spigot which goes into the
other wing, not just the fuselage.

Also ensure the bearings on the fuselage are lined up before rigging. I
find sometimes a little lift of the leading/trailing edge to help the
spigot into the bearing is needed.

If you have a hydraulic ramp (Cobra etc), it may make it easier if you
leave the main wheel up and lower the fuselage as low as possible before
inserting the wings. This means the wing tip holder has an easier job as
they don't need to lift the tip higher.

Regards,
Shaun

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Old June 25th 19, 03:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dennis Cavagnaro
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Default Ventus rigging advice, please?

I was told and its now my practice to set the flap setting to 6.

I have a Ventus B

DC
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Old June 25th 19, 11:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jonathan Walker
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Default Ventus rigging advice, please?

At 08:53 25 June 2019, John McLaughlin wrote:
I've recently started flying a Ventus2. I can't rig the thing without a

lo
of
struggle. The trouble is, there's a cover above the spars and you can't

se

anything once the first wing is in.

I struggle to get the second wing to fit, never knowing whether it's a bi
too
high or a bit too low. The ground is uneven and sloping, which doesn'
help.

I hope some Ventus owners can give me some tips, please?


Fit the left hand wing first (front stub spar) and support with wing stand.
Make sure that the wing is fully flush with the fus (requires water ballast
shut, flaps neutral and airbrakes unlocked). Insert the main pin into the
spar by about 1 inch and put wing tape on the top of the fus/wing joint (to
stop the wing getting pushed out when fitting the second wing). Adjust the
wing support or twist the fus in the belly dolly to make sure the wing stub
is located vertically central within the right hand side of the fus. This
is the important bit for simple rigging.
Now fit the right hand wing which should just push straight in with just a
small vertical adjustment. I NEVER need to look in the fus to get the right
hand wing height correct, the lead on the wing pins does that as long as
you are in the ballpark.

Rigging the Ventus is just like a Discus and around the easiest of the
modern.

Hope this helps.

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Old June 27th 19, 05:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
krasw
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Default Ventus rigging advice, please?

On Tuesday, 25 June 2019 13:15:05 UTC+3, Jonathan Walker wrote:

Rigging the Ventus is just like a Discus and around the easiest of the
modern.

Hope this helps.


And yet no one is asking how to rig a AS or LS.
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Old June 27th 19, 06:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John McLaughlin
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Default Ventus rigging advice, please?

Maybe the problem is just me!


And yet no one is asking how to rig a AS or LS.


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Old June 27th 19, 09:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
krasw
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Default Ventus rigging advice, please?

Nope, it's Schempp.
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Old June 27th 19, 10:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tim Taylor
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Default Ventus rigging advice, please?

Nothing wrong with SH, it just takes skill rather than brute force to rig one. I prefer a SH to a brand S any day.
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Old June 27th 19, 10:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_6_]
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Default Ventus rigging advice, please?

On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 13:56:05 -0700, krasw wrote:

Nope, it's Schempp.


Not even that. Its single pin vs two pin spar designs. I've flown and
rigged both, single pin (Discus, Libelle, SZD Junior) and two-pin
(Pegase, ASW-20).

For my money a two-pin system is easier to rig because, once both wings
are fully home on the drag pins its just a matter of moving a tip up or
down until the first wing pin slips in. Then the second pin usually just
slides in without fuss.

By contrast, with a single pin system you have six or seven pins to line
up exactly (drag pins on both wings plus the two or three spigots on the
spar ends) before both wings will fit far enough in for you to even think
of putting the main pin in. This often involves considerable faffing
about and strange mutterings. Then the main pin goes in without any
trouble. FWIW Libelles and Kestrels can be easier to rig than SH gliders
because all pins and sockets are out in the open.


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