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"PENTAGON WORKING TO GIVE F-35 JSF NUCLEAR-STRIKE CAPABILITY"
"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
: It's Saturday, Ian is enjoying his schnops :-). That's "schnaps" and I don't drink as a rule. On May 2, 9:07 am, Ian B MacLure wrote: "Ken S. Tucker" wrote m: ... And there's the problem Ed, a mini-atomic bomber without any concievable target, that would only be redundant. Your inability to conceive of a possible adversary doesn't preclude the possibility that one exists. There may be alligators under my bed, so I sleep with a shot-gun? I'll bet you duck to avoid low flying turtles as well. Ed, somehow, your using the limitation of the Vietnam conflict, and the NATO cold-war tactical nuke deployment as being relevent to the F-35+nuke debate. Let's plan for the future, good planning will provide the future we want. Below \, I'm seeing politics, that is thread drift. Ken Your point being what exactly? And I'm pretty sure the drift started elsewhere. IBM |
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"PENTAGON WORKING TO GIVE F-35 JSF NUCLEAR-STRIKE CAPABILITY"
On Sat, 2 May 2009 22:29:25 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"
wrote: Concur. Even the old S-2E/G had the capability (nuclear depth charges; useful in a limited way against subs but also useful for other things). AFAIK, CVN's (and USN surface fleet) is not nuclear offensive, so the navalized F-35 doesn't need nukes, and no "allie" wants or needs them. You don't know anything of the sort because it's policy not to discuss whether it is or is not. Still, the Big Question is not whether we add some wires and boxes but whethe we have leadership with the fortitude to address serious problems. Sadly, that's been lacking for a while. There was fortitude, it's been shaken by faulty intel Collin Powell delivered on WMD's in Iraq. Personally I trusted him, but we now have no evidence to support that rationale to invade Iraq then. Cost is approaching 30,000 casualties + $Trillion, so I rather resent the suggestion America lacks fortitude. Resent away. Doesn't change the facts. Bill Kambic Gracefully Aging RAFS Member Regards Ken PS:What's RAFS? Real Aviators Flew Stoofs. http://www.r-a-f-s.org/ |
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"PENTAGON WORKING TO GIVE F-35 JSF NUCLEAR-STRIKE CAPABILITY"
On Sun, 3 May 2009 06:47:16 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote: Did you see this? Alberta pigs likely infected with flu from worker: CFIA official Number of confirmed Canadian cases now 85, all believed mild Last Updated: Saturday, May 2, 2009 | 7:56 PM ET Comments242Recommend108 CBC News In what would be the first reported case of its kind, a farm worker with the swine flu virus is believed to have infected about 200 pigs in Alberta, a top official with the Canadian Food Inspection Agency said Saturday. balance snipped for brevity Kind of a "man bites dog" story, eh??? :-) |
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"PENTAGON WORKING TO GIVE F-35 JSF NUCLEAR-STRIKE CAPABILITY"
Jack Linthicum wrote:
snip In what would be the first reported case of its kind, a farm worker with the swine flu virus is believed to have infected about 200 pigs in Alberta, a top official with the Canadian Food Inspection Agency said Saturday. I don't think I will ask what the man was doing with the pigs. What a man does in his private life is no one's business but his. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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"PENTAGON WORKING TO GIVE F-35 JSF NUCLEAR-STRIKE CAPABILITY"
On May 3, 6:15*am, wrote:
On Sat, 2 May 2009 22:29:25 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker AFAIK, CVN's (and USN surface fleet) is not nuclear offensive, so the navalized F-35 doesn't need nukes, and no "allie" wants or needs them. You don't know anything of the sort because it's policy not to discuss whether it is or is not. By presidential order (Bush the 1st) all tactical nuclear weapons were removed from USN surface ships and Submarines. Ordered in 1991 finished by 1992. BB |
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"PENTAGON WORKING TO GIVE F-35 JSF NUCLEAR-STRIKE CAPABILITY"
On May 3, 10:01*am, Dan wrote:
Jack Linthicum wrote: snip In what would be the first reported case of its kind, a farm worker with the swine flu virus is believed to have infected about 200 pigs in Alberta, a top official with the Canadian Food Inspection Agency said Saturday. * * I don't think I will ask what the man was doing with the pigs. What a man does in his private life is no one's business but his. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired They were engaged |
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"PENTAGON WORKING TO GIVE F-35 JSF NUCLEAR-STRIKE CAPABILITY"
On May 3, 6:47 am, Jack Linthicum wrote:
On May 1, 2:35 pm, Ed Rasimus wrote: On Fri, 1 May 2009 08:56:50 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker" .... Just this AM, because of a sniffle in Mexico a school in our neighbourhood (Vernon BC) was closed for a week. Apparently Canada is as subject to Biden-induced anxiety as the sheeple of the US. .... Did you see this? Alberta pigs likely infected with flu from worker: CFIA official Number of confirmed Canadian cases now 85, all believed mild Last Updated: Saturday, May 2, 2009 | 7:56 PM ET Comments242Recommend108 CBC News Canada, especially Toronto lost 50-100 people over that SARs thing, so I guess they're siding on caution. Ken |
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"PENTAGON WORKING TO GIVE F-35 JSF NUCLEAR-STRIKE CAPABILITY"
On May 3, 6:15 am, wrote:
On Sat, 2 May 2009 22:29:25 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker" wrote: Concur. Even the old S-2E/G had the capability (nuclear depth charges; useful in a limited way against subs but also useful for other things). AFAIK, CVN's (and USN surface fleet) is not nuclear offensive, so the navalized F-35 doesn't need nukes, and no "allie" wants or needs them. You don't know anything of the sort because it's policy not to discuss whether it is or is not. Still, the Big Question is not whether we add some wires and boxes but whethe we have leadership with the fortitude to address serious problems. Sadly, that's been lacking for a while. There was fortitude, it's been shaken by faulty intel Collin Powell delivered on WMD's in Iraq. Personally I trusted him, but we now have no evidence to support that rationale to invade Iraq then. Cost is approaching 30,000 casualties + $Trillion, so I rather resent the suggestion America lacks fortitude. Resent away. Doesn't change the facts. The US, Brits + more have had an armed presence in Iraq (or around), since 1991, 18 years, in Afgh since 2001, 8 years. A lack of fortitude might be argued in the way those conflicts were resolved. PS:What's RAFS? Real Aviators Flew Stoofs. http://www.r-a-f-s.org/ Ken |
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"PENTAGON WORKING TO GIVE F-35 JSF NUCLEAR-STRIKE CAPABILITY"
Jack Linthicum wrote:
On May 3, 10:01 am, Dan wrote: Jack Linthicum wrote: snip In what would be the first reported case of its kind, a farm worker with the swine flu virus is believed to have infected about 200 pigs in Alberta, a top official with the Canadian Food Inspection Agency said Saturday. I don't think I will ask what the man was doing with the pigs. What a man does in his private life is no one's business but his. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired They were engaged All 200 of them? Polygamy gone wild. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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"PENTAGON WORKING TO GIVE F-35 JSF NUCLEAR-STRIKE CAPABILITY"
On Sun, 3 May 2009 11:48:59 -0700 (PDT), BlackBeard
wrote: On May 3, 6:15*am, wrote: On Sat, 2 May 2009 22:29:25 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker AFAIK, CVN's (and USN surface fleet) is not nuclear offensive, so the navalized F-35 doesn't need nukes, and no "allie" wants or needs them. You don't know anything of the sort because it's policy not to discuss whether it is or is not. By presidential order (Bush the 1st) all tactical nuclear weapons were removed from USN surface ships and Submarines. Ordered in 1991 finished by 1992. Would this not mean that by presidential order they could be put back? |
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