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Why the Royal Australian Air Force went for Israeli Python-4 AAM's over US AIM-9L's



 
 
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Old July 5th 03, 02:57 PM
Urban Fredriksson
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JGB wrote:

But they didn't. And I think you mean AIM-9X instead of
AIM-9L, as RAAF already had AIM-9M.

And they didn't choose Python 4 either, but ASRAAM.
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Old July 5th 03, 04:09 PM
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"JGB" wrote in message
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http://www.sci.fi/~fta/python4.html



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Old July 5th 03, 06:56 PM
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"JGB" wrote in message
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http://www.sci.fi/~fta/python4.html


They didnt, they bought ASRAAM instead. The article states Python
was considered not that it was selected.

http://www.airpowerint.com/dtol_arti...tol_hornet.htm

www.adbr.com.au/data/ind_2000.htm

Keith



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Old July 5th 03, 10:15 PM
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http://www.sci.fi/~fta/python4.html

Wrong again. First you claim that Python is an AMRAAM (it isn't), then
you say it has been placed into service by the USAF (it hasn't), and
now you claim that the RAAF has opted for it (and it hasn't). Why are
you so hung up on Python, and why can't you get *any* of the facts on
it right? BTW, one country that *has* purchased Python from Israel
is...the PRC.

Brooks
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Old July 5th 03, 10:56 PM
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"JGB" wrote in message
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http://www.sci.fi/~fta/python4.html


They didnt, they bought ASRAAM instead. The article states Python
was considered not that it was selected.

http://www.airpowerint.com/dtol_arti...tol_hornet.htm

www.adbr.com.au/data/ind_2000.htm

Keith


Oh, well, maybe Rafael will have better luck with its new version,
Python 5, But then, we all know that technical superiority rarely
rates
as the main reason why any system is is ultimately selected. Politics
and financing usually are usually the dominant criteria in which
system
get picked. Anyhooo...


http://www.ainonline.com/Publication...afaelpg24.html


Rafael touts its follow-on IR Python-5

Israel’s Rafael company has announced the development of the
Python-5 infrared (IR) air-to-air missile as a follow-on to the
Python-4. Python-4 has been widely regarded as one of the more capable
IR missiles on the market and the Python-5 design retains the previous
model’s airframe design, inertial navigation system, rocket
motor, warhead and proximity fuse.

Python-5, which will compete with the U.S. AIM-9X and other
next-generation IR missiles is billed by Rafael as a combination of
the proven technologies of the Python-4 design and a new dual-waveband
imaging seeker. The Python-5 also incorporates a new computer
architecture, state-of-the-art IR counter countermeasures and a new
program of flight control algorithms.

The new missile supposedly achieves full sphere capability by a
lock-on-after-launch feature combined with its target acquisition and
tracking performance. The dual-waveband seeker is a focal plane array
design that–in conjunction with the new algorithms developed for
the missile–can acquire and take out even small targets against
all manner of adverse backgrounds or ground clutter.

The new Python-5 has passed all developmental and operational testing.
It is currently being offered along with Rafael’s Derby active
radar homing missile in order to offer customers a full range of
modern air-to-air weaponry.
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Old July 6th 03, 08:00 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"JGB" wrote in message
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message

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"JGB" wrote in message
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http://www.sci.fi/~fta/python4.html


They didnt, they bought ASRAAM instead. The article states Python
was considered not that it was selected.

http://www.airpowerint.com/dtol_arti...tol_hornet.htm

www.adbr.com.au/data/ind_2000.htm

Keith


Oh, well, maybe Rafael will have better luck with its new version,
Python 5, But then, we all know that technical superiority rarely
rates


Actually it rates highly but so does security of supply and frankly
thats not assured for the Python.

Keith



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Old July 6th 03, 10:29 PM
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"JGB" wrote in message
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message

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"JGB" wrote in message
om...
http://www.sci.fi/~fta/python4.html

They didnt, they bought ASRAAM instead. The article states Python
was considered not that it was selected.

http://www.airpowerint.com/dtol_arti...tol_hornet.htm

www.adbr.com.au/data/ind_2000.htm

Keith


Oh, well, maybe Rafael will have better luck with its new version,
Python 5, But then, we all know that technical superiority rarely
rates


Actually it rates highly but so does security of supply and frankly
thats not assured for the Python.


Nonsense. Another excuse. It can always be manufactured in the States
under license. Boeing will be manufacturing the Arrow II.



Keith

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Old July 6th 03, 11:55 PM
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JGB wrote:


Nonsense. Another excuse. It can always be manufactured in the States
under license. Boeing will be manufacturing the Arrow II.


Boeing will only manufacture about 50% of the missile components.

"In February 2003, IAI signed an agreement with Boeing to establish the
production infrastructure to manufacture components of the Arrow missile
in the US. Boeing will be responsible for the production of
approximately 50% of the missile components in the US. Boeing will
produce various missile components and co-ordinate the production of
existing Arrow missile components already being manufactured by more
than 150 American companies. IAI will be responsible for integration and
final assembly of the missile in Israel."

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapo...row/Arrow.html

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Old July 7th 03, 12:17 AM
Keith Willshaw
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"JGB" wrote in message
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message

news:be9rkt$7ht$1that technical superiority rarely
rates


Actually it rates highly but so does security of supply and frankly
thats not assured for the Python.


Nonsense. Another excuse. It can always be manufactured in the States
under license. Boeing will be manufacturing the Arrow II.


That was not the deal offered, Rafael was trying to sell the missile
not Boeing, US manufacturers were of course pushing Aim-9X

Keith


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Old July 7th 03, 03:22 AM
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(Kevin Brooks) wrote in message . com...
(JGB) wrote in message . com...
http://www.sci.fi/~fta/python4.html

Wrong again. First you claim that Python is an AMRAAM (it isn't), then
you say it has been placed into service by the USAF (it hasn't), and
now you claim that the RAAF has opted for it (and it hasn't). Why are
you so hung up on Python, and why can't you get *any* of the facts on
it right? BTW, one country that *has* purchased Python from Israel
is...the PRC.

Brooks



Wrong as usual.
China don't have the python 4 he talked about.
And as usual you also know you're wrong (its called lying).

Chile and India use it.
 




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