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Old June 9th 07, 04:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry R[_2_]
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Ok, read the whole thing before the flames!

Pouring through the FAR's, I couldn't find an answer..

Renting an aircraft for a trip at the end of the month, which had an
annual June 06. My return date is July 1.

I'm trying to push the FBO to do the annual before my trip, but
looking at other options too.

Is there some exemption that allows a return to home base/maintenance
station?

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Old June 9th 07, 04:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
tom418
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It's called a ferry permit. Good luck with trying to convince an FBO (or
other entity) to pull one so that you can take your trip. I've gotten two
ferry permits for my Seneca. It's not too easy.

Even if you got one, you would probably have to fly solo, in VFR conditions,
and you'd be given a time frame for a flight to where mainenance (the
annual ) would be done.
"Larry R" wrote in message
ups.com...
Ok, read the whole thing before the flames!

Pouring through the FAR's, I couldn't find an answer..

Renting an aircraft for a trip at the end of the month, which had an
annual June 06. My return date is July 1.

I'm trying to push the FBO to do the annual before my trip, but
looking at other options too.

Is there some exemption that allows a return to home base/maintenance
station?



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Old June 9th 07, 05:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry R[_2_]
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Default Flying out of annual

Actually, I was looking at the " within the preceding 12 calendar
months" phrase of 91.409 (a). I *think* that means that, in my case,
the preceding 12 months would be from June 06-June 07 (on the return,
July would be the actual month).

Just throwing that out until I can reach the owner...

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Old June 9th 07, 05:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
RST Engineering
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Default Flying out of annual

You must have missed that question on your pilot written exam. Most
everything in aviation is done by the "calendar" time period. Medicals,
annuals, BFRs, and the like are done by "calendar" months. A calendar month
expires twelve months at the END OF THE MONTH in which it was performed.

If your annual was done on 6 June, then it expires at the stroke of midnight
on 30 June. At 00:00:01 on 1 July, you are out of license (or medical, or
BFR or ...).

Jim

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"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like no one is watching."
--Satchel Paige


"Larry R" wrote in message
ps.com...
Actually, I was looking at the " within the preceding 12 calendar
months" phrase of 91.409 (a). I *think* that means that, in my case,
the preceding 12 months would be from June 06-June 07 (on the return,
July would be the actual month).

Just throwing that out until I can reach the owner...



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Old June 9th 07, 06:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Vaughn Simon
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"RST Engineering" wrote in message
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A calendar month expires twelve months at the END OF THE MONTH in which it
was performed.


Which is why many annuals are signed off on the first of the month, the day
AFTER the current annual expires. If done systematically, that effectively
gives you 13 months on an annual.

Vaughn



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Old June 9th 07, 06:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
RST Engineering
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Default Flying out of annual

Or a free annual every twelve years, whichever way you choose to look at it.
The only fly in that ointment is hitting the July annual and trying to get
home from Oshkosh before the first of August {:^(

Hey, a business opportunity!!!!!!!!!! The extra special "North 40 Mobile
One-Hour Annual Service" where 31 July paperwhipping is the order of the
day!!! (Please, no flames, just kidding.)

(NO, Jay, I AIN'T going to do it for Assless out in the cornfields.)

Jim

--
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like no one is watching."
--Satchel Paige


"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
...

"RST Engineering" wrote in message
...
A calendar month expires twelve months at the END OF THE MONTH in which
it was performed.


Which is why many annuals are signed off on the first of the month,
the day AFTER the current annual expires. If done systematically, that
effectively gives you 13 months on an annual.

Vaughn





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Old June 9th 07, 08:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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Default Flying out of annual


"RST Engineering" wrote

Hey, a business opportunity!!!!!!!!!! The extra special "North 40 Mobile
One-Hour Annual Service" where 31 July paperwhipping is the order of the
day!!! (Please, no flames, just kidding.)

(NO, Jay, I AIN'T going to do it for Assless out in the cornfields.)


What a whimP!

If I can put a transmission in and out of a V-8 Van, in the middle of a
field at OSH, you could surely pencil whip an annual in the North 40,
without even breaking a sweat!

G, Ducking and Running
--
Jim in NC


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Old June 9th 07, 05:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
RST Engineering
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Default Flying out of annual

There are no blanket exemptions. There is one sure way. Cut your trip
short and come home the 30th of June (assuming good weather).

The other way is with a ferry permit. The ferry permit works like this:
you call the FSDO for the area that you are flying OUT of and explain the
extenuating circumstances that caused the airplane to go out of annual.
Getting weathered in unexpectedly might work. Getting sick might work.
Scheduling stupidly and knowing it will go out of annual won't work.

over
The FAA will probably ask that a local A&P give you a clean bill of health
before they cut the permit. You pay the A&P. If the FAA is satisfied with
the condition of the aircraft they will issue the permit and fax it to
wherever you tell them to fax it. If that is a fax service you pay the fax
charge. If you've got an extra week you can have them mail it. It will
generally be good for a 24 hour day or two that you specify. If you get
weathered in for those two days, go to over and do it all again. It will
most probably be for single pilot only and in VFR conditions only.

Do you really think it is worth it?

Jim
--
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and
dance like no one is watching."
--Satchel Paige


"Larry R" wrote in message
ups.com...
Ok, read the whole thing before the flames!

Pouring through the FAR's, I couldn't find an answer..

Renting an aircraft for a trip at the end of the month, which had an
annual June 06. My return date is July 1.

I'm trying to push the FBO to do the annual before my trip, but
looking at other options too.

Is there some exemption that allows a return to home base/maintenance
station?



 




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