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Old July 4th 04, 01:03 PM
WalterM140
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"WASHINGTON - The government needs to establish guidelines for canceling or
rescheduling elections if terrorists strike the United States again, says the
chairman of a new federal voting commission.

Such guidelines do not currently exist, said DeForest B. Soaries, head of the
voting panel."

http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews...9_20040625.htm

Cancelling an election. That is pretty much what the Bushies want.

Why on earth should the Bushies think they can win a fair election in 2004 when
a weak Democratic candidate, who ran a poor campaign, still garnered 300,000
more votes in 2000?

They don't think that. That is why they want electronic, no paper-trail
voting. That is why they want the power to "cancel" elections.

This is serious. It's especially serious when you think that the Supreme Court
has in the past, and will surely in the future, toss law and precedent in the
toilet to aid the Bushies in stealing the election.

President Lincoln said:


"On this point the present rebellion brought our republic to a severe test; and
a presidential election occurring in regular course during the rebellion added
not a little to the strain. If the loyal people, united, were put to the utmost
of their strength by the rebellion, must they not fail when divided, and
partially paralized (sic), by a political war among themselves?

But the election was a necessity.

We can not have free government without elections; and if the rebellion could
force us to forego, or postpone a national election it might fairly claim to
have already conquered and ruined us."

http://www.nps.gov/liho/writer/1864.htm

But the Bushies want the power to cancel the election. They will do -anything-
to stay in power.

We have to stop them.

Walt



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Old July 4th 04, 05:42 PM
tim gueguen
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"WalterM140" wrote in message
...
"WASHINGTON - The government needs to establish guidelines for canceling

or
rescheduling elections if terrorists strike the United States again, says

the
chairman of a new federal voting commission.

Such guidelines do not currently exist, said DeForest B. Soaries, head of

the
voting panel."

http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews...9_20040625.htm

Cancelling an election. That is pretty much what the Bushies want.

You sound exactly like the kooks during the Clinton Admin who spent years
wringing their hands about all the schemes Clinton was going to use to
declare martial law and make himself President for Life.

tim gueguen 101867


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Old July 4th 04, 06:44 PM
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From: "tim gueguen"
Date: 7/4/2004 11:42 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id: JrWFc.955589$Pk3.432097@pd7tw1no


"WalterM140" wrote in message
...
"WASHINGTON - The government needs to establish guidelines for canceling

or
rescheduling elections if terrorists strike the United States again, says

the
chairman of a new federal voting commission.

Such guidelines do not currently exist, said DeForest B. Soaries, head of

the
voting panel."

http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews...9_20040625.htm

Cancelling an election. That is pretty much what the Bushies want.

You sound exactly like the kooks during the Clinton Admin who spent years
wringing their hands about all the schemes Clinton was going to use to
declare martial law and make himself President for Life.

tim gueguen 101867


Maybe walt switched sides?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old July 4th 04, 07:55 PM
Bill & Susan Maddux
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The terrorist would like nothing better than perform an act of terror to
change the out come of an American Election like they did in Spain. I
believe that if Gore had won in 2000, 9-11 would have been deal with the
same manor as the first Twin Towers attack in 93. (NOTHING). I also Believe
that Kerry is not a strong enough candidate to become president when it
comes to OUR safety. He has voted many times against new weapon systems that
has made are Military strong. Under Clinton's White House Kerry helped to
make our Military weaker buy Numbers, and equipment. Those better body armor
Kerry was yelling about for our troops weren't funded because he didn't see
a need for them in 1996.
IF an attack happens again here in the states, which I do believe is coming,
(because of our long standing open door policies) from with in our borders.
Than the election should be rescheduled for a brief period to calm the panic
down in the country first. People in groups are dumb, and are prone to
panic. A person is smart, but does not control all.
"B2431" wrote in message
...
From: "tim gueguen"
Date: 7/4/2004 11:42 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id: JrWFc.955589$Pk3.432097@pd7tw1no


"WalterM140" wrote in message
...
"WASHINGTON - The government needs to establish guidelines for

canceling
or
rescheduling elections if terrorists strike the United States again,

says
the
chairman of a new federal voting commission.

Such guidelines do not currently exist, said DeForest B. Soaries, head

of
the
voting panel."

http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews...9_20040625.htm

Cancelling an election. That is pretty much what the Bushies want.

You sound exactly like the kooks during the Clinton Admin who spent years
wringing their hands about all the schemes Clinton was going to use to
declare martial law and make himself President for Life.

tim gueguen 101867


Maybe walt switched sides?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired



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Old July 5th 04, 04:22 AM
BUFDRVR
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John wrote:

Please take your nonsensical political bigotry to some other newsgroup.


Why should he? He gets *so* much attention here.




BUFDRVR

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everyone on Bear Creek"
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Old July 5th 04, 10:53 PM
tim gueguen
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"Bill & Susan Maddux" wrote in message
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The terrorist would like nothing better than perform an act of terror to
change the out come of an American Election like they did in Spain. I
believe that if Gore had won in 2000, 9-11 would have been deal with the
same manor as the first Twin Towers attack in 93. (NOTHING).


********.

tim gueguen 101867


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Old July 5th 04, 11:03 PM
Brett
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"tim gueguen" wrote:

"Bill & Susan Maddux" wrote in message
om...
The terrorist would like nothing better than perform an act of terror to
change the out come of an American Election like they did in Spain. I
believe that if Gore had won in 2000, 9-11 would have been deal with the
same manor as the first Twin Towers attack in 93. (NOTHING).


********.


The Embassy bombings in 1998 didn't generate much of a response from the
Clinton Administration (remember Gore was part of it) so your comment should
be directed at you, since the Maddux comment is probably closer to the truth
than yours.


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Old July 6th 04, 12:56 PM
George Z. Bush
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"tim gueguen" wrote in message
news:T5kGc.30368$P7.14700@pd7tw3no...

"Bill & Susan Maddux" wrote in message
om...
The terrorist would like nothing better than perform an act of terror to
change the out come of an American Election like they did in Spain. I
believe that if Gore had won in 2000, 9-11 would have been deal with the
same manor as the first Twin Towers attack in 93. (NOTHING).


Nothing? Then how come that blind guy in the kookie clothes is still in the
Federal slammer and is going to stay there until he comes out in a pine box?
And he's not the only one who was nailed for that event....there are a bunch of
them keeping him company in his five-times daily prayers to Allah who also will
be old, old men before they get out, if they ever do.

George Z.


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Old July 6th 04, 04:19 PM
tim gueguen
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"Brett" wrote in message
. ..
"tim gueguen" wrote:

"Bill & Susan Maddux" wrote in message
om...
The terrorist would like nothing better than perform an act of terror

to
change the out come of an American Election like they did in Spain. I
believe that if Gore had won in 2000, 9-11 would have been deal with

the
same manor as the first Twin Towers attack in 93. (NOTHING).


********.


The Embassy bombings in 1998 didn't generate much of a response from the
Clinton Administration (remember Gore was part of it)


Which was not a direct attack on United States territory, didn't cause
billions of dollars of damage to New York City and the Pentagon, and didn't
kill 3000 plus US citizens in their own country.

so your comment should
be directed at you, since the Maddux comment is probably closer to the

truth
than yours.


If you really think a Gore admin wouldn't have gone out and stomped on the
Taliban as the Bush admin did you need to take those partisan blinders off.

tim gueguen 101867


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Old July 6th 04, 09:01 PM
Brett
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"tim gueguen" wrote in message
news:kqzGc.969780$Pk3.439395@pd7tw1no...

"Brett" wrote in message
. ..
"tim gueguen" wrote:

"Bill & Susan Maddux" wrote in message
om...
The terrorist would like nothing better than perform an act of

terror
to
change the out come of an American Election like they did in Spain.

I
believe that if Gore had won in 2000, 9-11 would have been deal with

the
same manor as the first Twin Towers attack in 93. (NOTHING).

********.


The Embassy bombings in 1998 didn't generate much of a response from the
Clinton Administration (remember Gore was part of it)


Which was not a direct attack on United States territory,


A US Embassy is considered US territory so it would be a direct attack.

didn't cause
billions of dollars of damage to New York City and the Pentagon, and

didn't
kill 3000 plus US citizens in their own country.


so your comment should
be directed at you, since the Maddux comment is probably closer to the

truth
than yours.


If you really think a Gore admin wouldn't have gone out and stomped on the
Taliban


A couple of cruise missiles directed at nearly empty training camps.

as the Bush admin did you need to take those partisan blinders off.


The person with the blinders on is you. Gore would still be running an
opinion poll today to determine what should be the countries future course
of action following the attacks.




 




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