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  #21  
Old November 30th 04, 02:11 AM
Jake Donovan
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LOL I have one of those too! (OF's)

Problem being is ya can't wear one on da boat.

Jake


"Pechs1" wrote in message
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Jake- Oh how true.... LOL You know you've earned your "stripe" when
this is
less
green on your Nomenx Jacket than patches. :-) BRBR

Nomex??!!

How about the old nylon one? What true 'old farts' had/have-
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye
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  #22  
Old November 30th 04, 03:02 AM
Doug \Woody\ and Erin Beal
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I've never seen a "Nomex" one... Just the nylon... And last time I was on
the boat, I wore it.

--Woody

On 11/29/04 7:11 PM, in article PMPqd.4121$wa1.3402@lakeread04, "Jake
Donovan" wrote:

LOL I have one of those too! (OF's)

Problem being is ya can't wear one on da boat.

Jake


"Pechs1" wrote in message
...
Jake- Oh how true.... LOL You know you've earned your "stripe" when
this is
less
green on your Nomenx Jacket than patches. :-) BRBR

Nomex??!!

How about the old nylon one? What true 'old farts' had/have-
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye
Phlyer




  #23  
Old November 30th 04, 03:15 PM
Pechs1
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Jake- Problem being is ya can't wear one on da boat. BRBR

I asnwer-why not? In the RR, walking arouind will somebody take you to task for
wearing a nylon flght jacket? Yikes, things have changed a LOT!! if true.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer
  #24  
Old December 1st 04, 02:44 AM
Jake Donovan
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Woody,

Both the CWU 36P and CWU 45P, issued since the late 70's early 80's are
constructed of ARIMNID fibers. AKA Nomex. A quick look at the label will
tell you. Give me a day or so and I'll dig up the Pub #. Nylon is a no go
and has been. I know for a fact that all flight jackets issued in the last
15 years have been made of Arimid fibers. (Other than Leather)

I think what you will find is some of the old nylon jackets get by as few
people can see the difference. How old is yours?

I was on a boat a few weeks ago, I saw no nylon.

Jake


"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message
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I've never seen a "Nomex" one... Just the nylon... And last time I was on
the boat, I wore it.

--Woody

On 11/29/04 7:11 PM, in article PMPqd.4121$wa1.3402@lakeread04, "Jake
Donovan" wrote:

LOL I have one of those too! (OF's)

Problem being is ya can't wear one on da boat.

Jake


"Pechs1" wrote in message
...
Jake- Oh how true.... LOL You know you've earned your "stripe" when
this is
less
green on your Nomenx Jacket than patches. :-) BRBR

Nomex??!!

How about the old nylon one? What true 'old farts' had/have-
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye
Phlyer






  #25  
Old December 2nd 04, 04:48 AM
Doug \Woody\ and Erin Beal
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On 11/30/04 7:44 PM, in article Yl9rd.531$9n.143@lakeread04, "Jake Donovan"
wrote:

Woody,

Both the CWU 36P and CWU 45P, issued since the late 70's early 80's are
constructed of ARIMNID fibers. AKA Nomex. A quick look at the label will
tell you. Give me a day or so and I'll dig up the Pub #. Nylon is a no go
and has been. I know for a fact that all flight jackets issued in the last
15 years have been made of Arimid fibers. (Other than Leather)


Thanks for prompting some light Googling and self-edcucation. I stand
corrected, sir:

I looked at the label.
Jacket, Flyer's, Men's Summer
Type CWU-36/P
MIL-J-83382C
DLA100-93-C-0323
100% Aromatic polyamide
Carter Industries, INC.

According to

http://www.junantai.com/english/e14zrgzf.htm

That's Nomex (brand name) or "meta-position aromatic polymide."

Personally, I prefer the leather one. My winter jacket has my legacy
Intruder patches (up to O-3 or so). My summer is patchless (so far)... All
patches in the pockets. My leather is warmest.

I think what you will find is some of the old nylon jackets get by as few
people can see the difference. How old is yours?

I was on a boat a few weeks ago, I saw no nylon.


You must not hang out on the right boats.

Even the admiral (a shoe) wore one on USS THEODORE ROOSEVELT (CVN-71). We
reservists certainly wore ours... But then we wore flight suits in port too.
During my time with CVW-9, the CAG's and DCAG's wore them festooned with
patches from all the CVW squadrons... So did the ship's CO.

--Woody

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Old December 3rd 04, 06:11 AM
Jake Donovan
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Woody,

I don't pay that much attention to the jackets to really notice but NATOPS
went to the NOMEX in about 86-87 exclusively. I am sure a lot of the OFs are
grandfathered in but if some anal blackshoe wanted to make a point about it,
he would have some grounds.

All issued jackets since, Winter and summer, are "nomex".

I think it's in
NAVAIR 00-35QH-2

Jake


"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message
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On 11/30/04 7:44 PM, in article Yl9rd.531$9n.143@lakeread04, "Jake
Donovan"
wrote:

Woody,

Both the CWU 36P and CWU 45P, issued since the late 70's early 80's are
constructed of ARIMNID fibers. AKA Nomex. A quick look at the label
will
tell you. Give me a day or so and I'll dig up the Pub #. Nylon is a no
go
and has been. I know for a fact that all flight jackets issued in the
last
15 years have been made of Arimid fibers. (Other than Leather)


Thanks for prompting some light Googling and self-edcucation. I stand
corrected, sir:

I looked at the label.
Jacket, Flyer's, Men's Summer
Type CWU-36/P
MIL-J-83382C
DLA100-93-C-0323
100% Aromatic polyamide
Carter Industries, INC.

According to

http://www.junantai.com/english/e14zrgzf.htm

That's Nomex (brand name) or "meta-position aromatic polymide."

Personally, I prefer the leather one. My winter jacket has my legacy
Intruder patches (up to O-3 or so). My summer is patchless (so far)...
All
patches in the pockets. My leather is warmest.

I think what you will find is some of the old nylon jackets get by as few
people can see the difference. How old is yours?

I was on a boat a few weeks ago, I saw no nylon.


You must not hang out on the right boats.

Even the admiral (a shoe) wore one on USS THEODORE ROOSEVELT (CVN-71). We
reservists certainly wore ours... But then we wore flight suits in port
too.
During my time with CVW-9, the CAG's and DCAG's wore them festooned with
patches from all the CVW squadrons... So did the ship's CO.

--Woody



  #27  
Old December 3rd 04, 01:52 PM
Doug \Woody\ and Erin Beal
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On 12/2/04 11:11 PM, in article 0ASrd.1712$9n.1091@lakeread04, "Jake
Donovan" wrote:

Woody,

I don't pay that much attention to the jackets to really notice but NATOPS
went to the NOMEX in about 86-87 exclusively. I am sure a lot of the OFs are
grandfathered in but if some anal blackshoe wanted to make a point about it,
he would have some grounds.

All issued jackets since, Winter and summer, are "nomex".

I think it's in
NAVAIR 00-35QH-2


Impressive. Quoting scripture. Not sure what an OF is.


Jake



I got my winter in 92-93 (old one stolen out of our squadron ladderwell on a
return from a XC. I was kinda torqued. Never found out who, but those
patches start to add up after a while.

My summer one in 94-95. Based on your comments and my re-education, I'm
sure they're "nomex" or Nomex.

--Woody

  #28  
Old December 3rd 04, 04:32 PM
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Impressive. Quoting scripture. Not sure what an OF is.


Just a guess,
OLD FART's like us
Sparky

  #29  
Old December 3rd 04, 08:15 PM
Jake Donovan
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:-) Yep OF's = Old Farts (and I fit the group)

Jake
"Elmshoot" wrote in message
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Impressive. Quoting scripture. Not sure what an OF is.


Just a guess,
OLD FART's like us
Sparky



 




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