Biggest and smallest aviators

"Pechs1" wrote in message
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aardvark- Hmmm. Since you'r USN(ret), mayhap you knew an F-4 type name
"hermit"? BRBR

Nope, but I knew more than a few little guys that didn't carry weights in
their
gsuit pockets.

... and we're all so proud of you, too.

aardvark- and we're all so proud of you, too. BRBR

Don't get so testy or I'll start talking about 'flare to land, squat to pee...I
had a tour with the USAF, afterall, F-4D, 61st and 13th squadrons in MacDill.
CO was none other than the last CoS of the USAF...
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

Big thing on 'gloc' was a) F16 could rack G very quickly and b) lack of
training/conditioing. I never flew the 16 - D/Pers was snippy about
that - sent me back to f4s. But I flew the deuce and believe me that
bat-wing mother could rack on G faster than anything else in the air.
(And shed airspeed at the same rate!) It could outtrun an F4D SkyRay
with 3 G at 200 KIAS (9G at 400, except it was redlined at about 6.8).
And no G-meter nor G-suit! It had the anti-G hose but we weren't issued
the suits. (unless one wanted to wear the MC4 partial pressure suit,
which had a built-in G suit.)(Ugh). So one just reactively applied the
old WW2 M1 anit-g maneuver when engaged with pulling G. As you started
the stick back you automatically tightened every muscle (except one)
from the diaphragm south until the G eased off. It became a habit and
continued when wearing a Gsuit in the Zipper and the F4. So blame the
F16 Gloc problem on inexperience and pilot training. PS first time I
'greyed out' was in a T28, thanks to no G-training at all. Tried a loop
on my first solo in the thing sitting fat dumb and happy and relaxed
and out I went going up. Held the G for TLAR and relaxed back pressure
and I could see again at about the 200 degree point. in the loop. God
protects young avcads - sometimes.
Walt BJ

Walt- So blame the
F16 Gloc problem on inexperience and pilot training. BRBR

I agree. We never had the problem, but also had very experienced aviators fly
the F-16N(no nuggets, no non fleet experienced people).
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer