Old airframe, new engine

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:41:47 +0100, "José Herculano"
wrote:

No jet ever made (or that ever will be made) had enough power.

Possible exception of the F/A-22 Raptor under current conditions...

How about the big black twin two-seater I used to work on? Whatever
its limitations, lack of thrust wasn't one.

It's not every airplane that can burn 85,000 lb of fuel in just over
an hour, you know.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

Its been over 30 years, we don't remember how it was, only how it should
have been. The gator was perfect around the boat

Perfectly unforgiving. It had the highest ramp strike rate of any tactical
aircraft that operated on angled deck carriers. There was a reason there
were no bad F-8 drivers.

R / John

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:05:49 GMT, "R" wrote:


For me the winner would be the F-8. You never forget your first love.
Whether it was climbing out of Key West after a Cuban MIG, doing a vertical
pass on a Bear, or flying under the power lines in southern California
trying to sneak up on Yuma it was great aircraft.


Recalling the VFR days of the 60's did you ever fly the VFR High
Performance West departure out of NKX? Or the essentially same
SCAMP-1?

NKX was certainly a thrilling place to be a controller in those days.
Was amazed at how well pilots and controllers managed to mix the Atlas
entries with Mission Bay entries, avoiding MYF and radar traffic.



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Only did it a couple times. By the time I got there, 1971, the scamp was
NOT encouraged.

R / John

"Jim Strand" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:05:49 GMT, "R" wrote:


For me the winner would be the F-8. You never forget your first love.
Whether it was climbing out of Key West after a Cuban MIG, doing a
vertical
pass on a Bear, or flying under the power lines in southern California
trying to sneak up on Yuma it was great aircraft.


Recalling the VFR days of the 60's did you ever fly the VFR High
Performance West departure out of NKX? Or the essentially same
SCAMP-1?

NKX was certainly a thrilling place to be a controller in those days.
Was amazed at how well pilots and controllers managed to mix the Atlas
entries with Mission Bay entries, avoiding MYF and radar traffic.



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ACC USN ret.
NKX, BIKF, NAB, CV-63, NIR
67-69 69-71 71-74 77-80 80-85
&
74-77

Co-founder of newsgroup - RAMN
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Mary -
Is there any sensible reason why your airframe was retired from
service when it still seemed to be viable?

Was it only a money issue or is there more to it than that?

Regards,

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:10:02 -0700, Mary Shafer
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:41:47 +0100, "José Herculano"
wrote:

No jet ever made (or that ever will be made) had enough power.

Possible exception of the F/A-22 Raptor under current conditions...

How about the big black twin two-seater I used to work on? Whatever
its limitations, lack of thrust wasn't one.

It's not every airplane that can burn 85,000 lb of fuel in just over
an hour, you know.

Mary

Sorry Mary - the above posting is mine. I used a different posting
nym to try to solve a NG retrieval issue. My apologies.
Regards,

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:49:15 -0500, catsrus
wrote:

Mary -
Is there any sensible reason why your airframe was retired from
service when it still seemed to be viable?

Was it only a money issue or is there more to it than that?

Regards,

snipped...

An A3 (all 3 dead) NFO of my acquaintance called the Crusader the
"Ensign Eater." Sounds like a REALLY steep learning curve...

Mark

Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal wrote:

On 10/14/03 11:05 AM, in article
, "R"
wrote:


"Jim Strand" wrote in message
...
Every year or so I post a similar version of this. Always nice to see
SNIP

For me the winner would be the F-8. You never forget your first love.
Whether it was climbing out of Key West after a Cuban MIG, doing a vertical
pass on a Bear, or flying under the power lines in southern California

Something tells me that "under" the power lines was once an "over" but
became an "under" over time.

Check out the F-4 at the Combat Air Museum in Toopeka KS. It is called
the Wichita Lineman since it came back from a mission streaming cable
from the vertical stabilizer.

MAH

I did not see it listed on the web site.
http://www.combatairmuseum.org/aircraft.htm

Any other information on this bird?

Woody

mah wrote:
Check out the F-4 at the Combat Air Museum in Toopeka KS. It is called
the Wichita Lineman since it came back from a mission streaming cable
from the vertical stabilizer.

MAH

James Woody wrote:

I did not see it listed on the web site.
http://www.combatairmuseum.org/aircraft.htm

Any other information on this bird?

Woody

The aircraft was there 3 years ago during my visit. I assume it is
still there. I'll look through my photos and see if I can dig up a tail
number.

MAH