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Article in flying Mag
Has anyone read the new flying magazine?
There is an article in it about a guy in a bonanza who crashed doing an instrument approach using a hand held non-aviation GPS, but whats worse is his maint. on his airplane, putting tape over the gas tank when he lost his gas cap and so on. I wonder if there are many people out there who actually take these kind of chances. |
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I wonder if there are many people out there who actually take these kind
of chances. I've not personally witnessed any of the kind outlined in the article. However, I see enough pilots simply jump in and go -- without so much as checking the oil or looking in the gas tanks -- to understand how this sort of thing happens. Complacency kills. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:55:24 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:
I wonder if there are many people out there who actually take these kind of chances. I've not personally witnessed any of the kind outlined in the article. However, I see enough pilots simply jump in and go -- without so much as checking the oil or looking in the gas tanks -- to understand how this sort of thing happens. There was a Beech Duke at Houston Gulf. I swear that the guy who flew it (about once every four months) wouldn't have noticed if the right wing was missing beyond the engine nascelle (until he tried to rotate of course). The plane had a LOT of defects which were readily apparent to the most cursory inspection, including some very bad corrosion on the vertical stab. There was another at SPX too, who crashed a Bonanza on his third attempt to get in on the ILS into Hobby (the weather was too bad). On his third attempt he ran out of gas. This was a Bo with the tip tanks, too. He ended up crashing into a house. The only thing he did right is control the aircraft all the way to impact. Somehow he survived with only minor injuries. He had delusions of rebuilding the plane too (and from what I saw there wasn't an unbent piece of metal left). -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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"Dylan Smith" wrote:
There was a Beech Duke at Houston Gulf. I swear that the guy who flew it (about once every four months) wouldn't have noticed if the right wing was missing beyond the engine nascelle (until he tried to rotate of course). The plane had a LOT of defects which were readily apparent to the most cursory inspection, including some very bad corrosion on the vertical stab. There's a Cardinal at one of our local fields with corrosion so bad there are actually holes in it. I hear its tail number on CTAF once in a while. This kind of thing is not too uncommon, apparently. It's a wonder these aircraft don't show up in the accident reports more often. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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Has anyone read the new flying magazine?
There is an article in it about a guy in a bonanza who crashed doing an instrument approach using a hand held non-aviation GPS, but whats worse is his maint. on his airplane, putting tape over the gas tank when he lost his gas cap and so on. I wonder if there are many people out there who actually take these kind of chances. I think more than we know. I work at a large general aviation field now but when I worked at smaller more outlying fields I used to see all kinds of silly and outright dangerous actions by pilots and mechanics alike. Just plain neglect of maintenance and good flying practice were the most common. Flying without preflighting was seen pretty regularly and usually by the same pilots. Failure to perform Airworthiness Directives is probably the most common maintenance fault. We have one occasional customer flying an Aerostar who boasted to one of the mechanics that since his last annual cost him over $30,000 dollars he was going to wait a few years before he had another. We once got a look at his logbooks and there was at least no entry for an annual for three years! I suppose he could have had the annuals done and recorded separately from the logbooks but I can't see a reputable shop doing that. John Dupre' |
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Jeff wrote: Has anyone read the new flying magazine? There is an article in it about a guy in a bonanza who crashed doing an instrument approach using a hand held non-aviation GPS, but whats worse is his maint. on his airplane, putting tape over the gas tank when he lost his gas cap and so on. I wonder if there are many people out there who actually take these kind of chances. I know of about a dozen within 50 miles of where I live. They are everywhere. Go to any airport and wander around. |
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This months report is FLYING mag is a repeat of a report that I read in
another Aviation Mag, I can't find it right now, but it was either AOPA or Pvt Pilot. The "first" article was much more detailed, described the same "non-maint" issues right down to the radio shop and the duct tape gas cap. but to answer the question. Yes there are people and aircraft out there like that, and they are not policed. Even internally, people hate to "Squeal" on others, "as long as it does not affect me" syndrome. Sadly, it does effect them, either through higher insurance costs, or maintenance shops that go out of business when they get "Sued" for allowing an aircraft to fly, even if it was 3 yrs since it was in his shop. BT "Jeff" wrote in message ... Has anyone read the new flying magazine? There is an article in it about a guy in a bonanza who crashed doing an instrument approach using a hand held non-aviation GPS, but whats worse is his maint. on his airplane, putting tape over the gas tank when he lost his gas cap and so on. I wonder if there are many people out there who actually take these kind of chances. |
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I also saw the article. I think it was in IFR refresher last month.
BTIZ wrote: This months report is FLYING mag is a repeat of a report that I read in another Aviation Mag, I can't find it right now, but it was either AOPA or Pvt Pilot. The "first" article was much more detailed, described the same "non-maint" issues right down to the radio shop and the duct tape gas cap. but to answer the question. Yes there are people and aircraft out there like that, and they are not policed. Even internally, people hate to "Squeal" on others, "as long as it does not affect me" syndrome. Sadly, it does effect them, either through higher insurance costs, or maintenance shops that go out of business when they get "Sued" for allowing an aircraft to fly, even if it was 3 yrs since it was in his shop. BT "Jeff" wrote in message ... Has anyone read the new flying magazine? There is an article in it about a guy in a bonanza who crashed doing an instrument approach using a hand held non-aviation GPS, but whats worse is his maint. on his airplane, putting tape over the gas tank when he lost his gas cap and so on. I wonder if there are many people out there who actually take these kind of chances. -- --Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 http://www.andraka.com "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, 1759 |
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yea... that was it..
BT "Ray Andraka" wrote in message ... I also saw the article. I think it was in IFR refresher last month. BTIZ wrote: This months report is FLYING mag is a repeat of a report that I read in another Aviation Mag, I can't find it right now, but it was either AOPA or Pvt Pilot. The "first" article was much more detailed, described the same "non-maint" issues right down to the radio shop and the duct tape gas cap. but to answer the question. Yes there are people and aircraft out there like that, and they are not policed. Even internally, people hate to "Squeal" on others, "as long as it does not affect me" syndrome. Sadly, it does effect them, either through higher insurance costs, or maintenance shops that go out of business when they get "Sued" for allowing an aircraft to fly, even if it was 3 yrs since it was in his shop. BT "Jeff" wrote in message ... Has anyone read the new flying magazine? There is an article in it about a guy in a bonanza who crashed doing an instrument approach using a hand held non-aviation GPS, but whats worse is his maint. on his airplane, putting tape over the gas tank when he lost his gas cap and so on. I wonder if there are many people out there who actually take these kind of chances. -- --Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 http://www.andraka.com "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, 1759 |
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"Jeff" wrote:
I wonder if there are many people out there who actually take these kind of chances. There are a few around here. One in particular is notorious. Once, after he curled the prop tips on his airplane by "not quite" landing it gear up, he sawed off the tips with a hack saw and flew home. He has made at least one other gear-up landing, as well, and usually does not bother to tie his airplane down. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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