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Old June 14th 07, 05:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
john smith
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Last month a Hollywood producer was detained for several hours for
honestly answering a TSA screeners question as to his purpose for
visiting. The answer to the question: "I'm here to shoot a pilot."

Yesterday, a single engine GA pilot was intercepted, forced to land and
was greeted by 20 federal agents. As he was overflying a military base,
he was communicating with the controllers. When queried as to his
destination, he responded that he could not disclose that information
because he was employed in a hostile work environment and that
disclosing the location could give his employers competition a business
advantage. It seems the controller only heard the word "hostile" and
immediately notified the security apparatus.

Be careful what you say and to whom you say it, it is likely to be
interpreted out of context.
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Old June 14th 07, 07:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
El Maximo
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"john smith" wrote in message
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Be careful what you say and to whom you say it, it is likely to be
interpreted out of context.


When my son was in pre-school, I showed him a trick where you stand in a
doorway and press your arms against the doorframe for a minute. After a
minute is done, relax your arms, and step out of the doorway. Your arms will
begin to rise.

The next day in school, he told his teacher "My father made me move my warms
when I didn't want to".

Two weeks ago, I went to a paintball range with another son. The next day in
Spanish class they were discussing the past preterit tense. When asked what
he was doing at 6:30 the previous evening, he replied "I was shooting my
father's boss".



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Old June 14th 07, 08:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Sarangan
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On Jun 14, 12:58 pm, john smith wrote:
Last month a Hollywood producer was detained for several hours for
honestly answering a TSA screeners question as to his purpose for
visiting. The answer to the question: "I'm here to shoot a pilot."

Yesterday, a single engine GA pilot was intercepted, forced to land and
was greeted by 20 federal agents. As he was overflying a military base,
he was communicating with the controllers. When queried as to his
destination, he responded that he could not disclose that information
because he was employed in a hostile work environment and that
disclosing the location could give his employers competition a business
advantage. It seems the controller only heard the word "hostile" and
immediately notified the security apparatus.

Be careful what you say and to whom you say it, it is likely to be
interpreted out of context.


Are you serious?

If a crew shows up with their cameras and lights and say they want to
'shoot', it must take someone with a poor command of English and some
paranoia to think that they meant 'shoot to kill'.

What surprises me is that ATC is falling for this too. In our local
area, we routinely 'shoot an approach into Wright Patterson AFB'.


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Old June 14th 07, 08:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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john smith writes:

Be careful what you say and to whom you say it, it is likely to be
interpreted out of context.


Instead of cowering under the bed, you might want to work hard to protect your
freedom of speech. "Watching what you say" essentially throws that freedom
away.
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Old June 14th 07, 08:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Andrew Sarangan writes:

If a crew shows up with their cameras and lights and say they want to
'shoot', it must take someone with a poor command of English and some
paranoia to think that they meant 'shoot to kill'.


A great many people have a poor command of English, even among native
speakers. About 1/3 of Americans are functionally illiterate.
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Old June 14th 07, 08:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
El Maximo
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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john smith writes:

Be careful what you say and to whom you say it, it is likely to be
interpreted out of context.


Instead of cowering under the bed, you might want to work hard to protect
your
freedom of speech. "Watching what you say" essentially throws that
freedom
away.


Or we could all run away to France, like sniveling cowards.



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Old June 14th 07, 09:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Stewart
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john smith wrote:
Last month a Hollywood producer was detained for several hours for
honestly answering a TSA screeners question as to his purpose for
visiting. The answer to the question: "I'm here to shoot a pilot."

Yesterday, a single engine GA pilot was intercepted, forced to land and
was greeted by 20 federal agents. As he was overflying a military base,
he was communicating with the controllers. When queried as to his
destination, he responded that he could not disclose that information
because he was employed in a hostile work environment and that
disclosing the location could give his employers competition a business
advantage. It seems the controller only heard the word "hostile" and
immediately notified the security apparatus.

Be careful what you say and to whom you say it, it is likely to be
interpreted out of context.


Without casting doubts on your accuracy,
I'd have to say that the story just doesn't
ring right. If I were overflying a military
base, the last thing I'd do is engage in a
conversation about competitive advantages
and hostile workplaces. If, for some un-
fathomable reason, I didn't want to reveal
my final destination, I'd simply give an
en-route airport. If I felt bad about the
borderline deception, I'd stop at the en-
route airport.

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Old June 14th 07, 09:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gatt
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"El Maximo" wrote in message
news
Be careful what you say and to whom you say it, it is likely to be
interpreted out of context.


When my son was in pre-school, I showed him a trick


When I was in Pre-School my folks got a call from the school. Apparently, I
either mispronounced "Focke Wulfe" or she'd never heard of such a thing.
Threatened to wash my mouth out with soap, but called my
guardian--grandfather, who was a B-17 vet--instead.

The old man was proud. I still have book I'd gotten it from somewhe
"Color Treasury of Model Airplanes"

-c


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Old June 14th 07, 09:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
tjd
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On Jun 14, 4:01 pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
Without casting doubts on your accuracy,
I'd have to say that the story just doesn't
ring right.


It sounds silly, but nevertheless is apparently true:

http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/148115.html

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Old June 14th 07, 09:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Actually, good point, anything bankrupt terrorsit boi says is a security
concern..


Bertie
 




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