Doodles...

Richard Lamb wrote:
Thanks Ron,

Right neighborly of you guys.
I'll just slip in here behind the Fokker-like thing.



http://home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/formup.jpg


oh ****!
Throttle back!
WAY back!
prop to fine pitch!
Flaps! FLAPS!


You aren't thinking big enough. Ask Ron for a copy of the picture
showing his Flybaby being in flight refueled by a KC-135

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Richard Lamb wrote:
Thanks Ron,

Right neighborly of you guys.
I'll just slip in here behind the Fokker-like thing.

http://home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/formup.jpg

That fokker is a Fly Baby:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/pix/junkers.HTM

I suspect the spruce content in your design is too low to play with our club...

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:20:02 -0600, "Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired"
wrote:

You aren't thinking big enough. Ask Ron for a copy of the picture
showing his Flybaby being in flight refueled by a KC-135

Twarn't my bird, it was that of a Fly Baby owner in South Africa. The pix
(which I freely admit stealing the idea from the RV folks) is at the bottom of:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/stories/altered.HTM

Ron Wanttaja

Ron Wanttaja wrote:

Richard Lamb wrote:

Thanks Ron,

Right neighborly of you guys.
I'll just slip in here behind the Fokker-like thing.

http://home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/formup.jpg


That fokker is a Fly Baby:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/pix/junkers.HTM

I suspect the spruce content in your design is too low to play with our club...

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:20:02 -0600, "Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired"
wrote:


You aren't thinking big enough. Ask Ron for a copy of the picture
showing his Flybaby being in flight refueled by a KC-135


Twarn't my bird, it was that of a Fly Baby owner in South Africa. The pix
(which I freely admit stealing the idea from the RV folks) is at the bottom of:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/stories/altered.HTM

Ron Wanttaja


"Um, say Lead",
"Can you get this gaggle up to 100 knots?"

"Richard Lamb" wrote in message
. net...

Filled in WingSpan and GrossWeight from Vans web site.
IIRC, Van uses a 23012 airfoil?

Richard............

I think Van uses a 23013. The Emeraude uses a 23012. That way I can go
"Neener, neener" at my buddy's RV-4 (as he goes screaming past me).

Rich S.

Rich S. wrote:
"Richard Lamb" wrote in message
. net...

Filled in WingSpan and GrossWeight from Vans web site.
IIRC, Van uses a 23012 airfoil?


Richard............

I think Van uses a 23013. The Emeraude uses a 23012. That way I can go
"Neener, neener" at my buddy's RV-4 (as he goes screaming past me).

Rich S.


Thanks, Mr. S.


Now would somebody measure the wing chord?

UltraJohn wrote:
Richard Lamb wrote:


Richard Lamb wrote:

http://home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/tour1.jpg

unix hates me...

My unix (linux) had no problem. Nice Drawing when so you start building? ;-)
John

Well, I don't rightly know, John.

I have some of the metal already... extrusions for the wings,
some 6061-T6 strap for the spars, some .032 sheet for fuselage
formers, etc.
But I don't have metal for skins yet.

And at the moment, no place to work on it.
I managed to sell my place as Zuehl.
(don't miss the squabbling, but I do miss my shop.)
For the time being I'm back to apartment life.


Richard

Ron Wanttaja wrote:

Richard Lamb wrote:

Thanks Ron,

Right neighborly of you guys.
I'll just slip in here behind the Fokker-like thing.

http://home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/formup.jpg


That fokker is a Fly Baby:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/pix/junkers.HTM

I suspect the spruce content in your design is too low to play with our club...

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:20:02 -0600, "Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired"
wrote:


You aren't thinking big enough. Ask Ron for a copy of the picture
showing his Flybaby being in flight refueled by a KC-135


Twarn't my bird, it was that of a Fly Baby owner in South Africa. The pix
(which I freely admit stealing the idea from the RV folks) is at the bottom of:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/stories/altered.HTM

Ron Wanttaja

Oh drat, I thought you had the only in flight refuelable Flybaby. If
I recall correctly the F-4E IFR receptical with drive weoghed about 100
pounds. Think you could w**k one in?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Rich S. wrote:
"Richard Lamb" wrote in message
...

Here are some (on topic - no less) doodles of a small low wing.
inspired by Bruce King's tiny little BK-1..

http://home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

Richard...............

It looks vaguely familiar. . .

http://www.homebuilt.org/kits/littner/cp80.html

Rich S.



I thought this was a really cute Hummel (SWR @New Braunfels)

http://home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/huml-03c.jpg

Looks like a full VW installation (as opposed to VW/2).
Which gives enough thrust to fly well, but seems to be a bit
heavy for the little wing (per BK).

Bruce King flew his Hummel (full 1825 VW) to Sun-N-Fun and
to Oshkosh. I'd hale that as the most successful VW powered
project I know of.

King gave BK-1 a little larger wing for the same weight and
got a much better flying airplane for his effort.

Haven't seen Bruce in a while. Last time was at the Hondo
Christmas parade. On a tiny flatbed trailer, Bruce and BK-1
buzzed the crowd on Main St!

But absolutely NOBODY believed that little airplane could
really fly...

My unix (linux) had no problem. Nice Drawing when so you start building?
;-)
John

Well, I don't rightly know, John.

I have some of the metal already... extrusions for the wings,
some 6061-T6 strap for the spars, some .032 sheet for fuselage
formers, etc.
But I don't have metal for skins yet.

And at the moment, no place to work on it.
I managed to sell my place as Zuehl.
(don't miss the squabbling, but I do miss my shop.)
For the time being I'm back to apartment life.
\
Shoot, something that small could be built in the spare bedroom, or living
room!
--
Jim in NC

Richard Lamb wrote:
Ron Wanttaja wrote:


Richard Lamb wrote:

Thanks Ron,

Right neighborly of you guys.
I'll just slip in here behind the Fokker-like thing.
http://home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/formup.jpg



That fokker is a Fly Baby:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/pix/junkers.HTM

I suspect the spruce content in your design is too low to play with
our club...

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:20:02 -0600, "Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired"
wrote:


You aren't thinking big enough. Ask Ron for a copy of the picture
showing his Flybaby being in flight refueled by a KC-135



Twarn't my bird, it was that of a Fly Baby owner in South Africa. The
pix
(which I freely admit stealing the idea from the RV folks) is at the
bottom of:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/stories/altered.HTM

Ron Wanttaja


"Um, say Lead",
"Can you get this gaggle up to 100 knots?"


I forgot that I had this one, Ron...

Sketched it out one evening, but the texturing kept being weird.
The canopy didn't like my cloud reflections. I dunno.

But it doesn't fly very well below 100 kts...

(I was going to write a keyboard function that allow menu selection
of wing camber, area, sweep, etc. while in flight, but I never quite
got around to it. Think of it as virtual variable geometry :^)


http://home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/formup2.jpg


ta

Richard