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An Interview With Chuck Yeager
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message k.net... "Wayne Paul" wrote in message ... You can't deny that the Japanese internment was based on race. What was German and Italian internment based on? Resident aliens? A few questions for you: What was the percentage of interned Italians and Germans were Resident aliens, Nationalized U.S. Citizens, and Citizens Born in the USA? My father spoke with a strong German accent and he was never questioned. His grand parents immigrated and became citizens. If they would have come from Japan instead of Germany we would have been interned. If you can show me that the interned Germans and Italians had as high a percentage of US Citizens as the Japanese, I will concede that it was not a mater of race. Wayne http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder |
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An Interview With Chuck Yeager
I can guarantee that He doesn't suffer fools. Take that for what it's worth.
Chuck "Byron Covey" wrote in message ... I have had several one-on-one conversations with him, and can report that you are incorrect. He is not "sort of a prick." He is 100% prick. As another poster noted, he gives no credit to anyone other than himself, with the possible exception of recognizing Bob Hoover as a good test pilot. BJC "Snidely" wrote in message ... I stumbled across this recent interview of Chuck Yeager on a PBS station in West Virginia. Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIeiMNjv0BQ Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0tku2b-Xms Not a good one for Yeager. He comes off as being quite arrogant and not a little condescending. I'd heard rumblings from time to time that he's sort of a prick, but until now had not seen or heard anything concrete. I think it is sad. |
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An Interview With Chuck Yeager
Anno v. Heimburg wrote: William R Thompson wrote: "Jose" wrote: Look! A PC idiot! The truth always draws them out. Probably loses sleep that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked, too. Should I take it for granted that you're a bigot who despises the Constitution, or do I even need to ask that question? Never mind, you're going into my killfile. What? He made an on-topic. ironically funny remark supporting your point (at least, that's how I took it). Or am I not getting you being ironic/sarcastic? Anno. I think That Mr. Thompson's assumption was correct. However, internment was a decision made during a difficult time and right or wrong, it is way in the past. What I really fear is just what action we will take when radical Islam is attacking *our* infrastructure and very way of life. IOW, just what will it take for us, (the West), to wake up and smell the brew??? JT |
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An Interview With Chuck Yeager
Steven P. McNicoll wrote: "Wayne Paul" wrote in message ... You can't deny that the Japanese internment was based on race. What was German and Italian internment based on? I think that it is well documented that American POW(s) fared far worse under Japanese oversight than that of either Germany or Italy. It's all about culture, not race. Further reinforcement of this belief is the plight of those that were held by the VC where survival was virtually non-existent. Add to the mix North Korea and North Vietnam. Guantanamo is probably a resort as compared to the above... JT |
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An Interview With Chuck Yeager
JT, Just what do you mean by "when"
The brew already smells, they have just sent their "moderate" brethren to try to conquer us by non violent means first. Their overall goal has not changed since we first sent the Marines after them, they have merely changed methods. George |
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An Interview With Chuck Yeager
George wrote: JT, Just what do you mean by "when" The brew already smells, they have just sent their "moderate" brethren to try to conquer us by non violent means first. Their overall goal has not changed since we first sent the Marines after them, they have merely changed methods. George Probably the first dirty bomb on domestic territory... JT |
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An Interview With Chuck Yeager
"Byron Covey" wrote (in part):
As another poster noted, he gives no credit to anyone other than himself, with the possible exception of recognizing Bob Hoover as a good test pilot. Now there's someone I really admire. Not only is he one of the world's best pilots, but he's a really nice guy. We got him out to one of our airshows at Archerfield (Brisbane) about ten years ago, and he did his usual immaculate performances in both a Shrike Commander and a Trojan. After the show, at the Aero Club, he was happy to talk to and encourage anyone interested in aviation, and he autographed just about anything. And, of course, the girls loved him. Mike -- Mike Mackenzie (AVCOM Services) Brisbane, AUSTRALIA Remove "XYZ" from the "Reply to" address when responding by email. |
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An Interview With Chuck Yeager
"Wayne Paul" wrote in message ... Resident aliens? No, American citizens of German and Italian descent. A few questions for you: What was the percentage of interned Italians and Germans were Resident aliens, Nationalized U.S. Citizens, and Citizens Born in the USA? I don't know. My father spoke with a strong German accent and he was never questioned. His grand parents immigrated and became citizens. If they would have come from Japan instead of Germany we would have been interned. If you can show me that the interned Germans and Italians had as high a percentage of US Citizens as the Japanese, I will concede that it was not a mater of race. Why would that be relevant? |
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An Interview With Chuck Yeager
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message k.net... "Wayne Paul" wrote in message ... Resident aliens? No, American citizens of German and Italian descent. A few questions for you: What was the percentage of interned Italians and Germans were Resident aliens, Nationalized U.S. Citizens, and Citizens Born in the USA? I don't know. My father spoke with a strong German accent and he was never questioned. His grand parents immigrated and became citizens. If they would have come from Japan instead of Germany we would have been interned. If you can show me that the interned Germans and Italians had as high a percentage of US Citizens as the Japanese, I will concede that it was not a mater of race. Why would that be relevant? OK, let us change that comparison. What percentage of the Germans and Italians interned were actual threats to the security of the war effort. If that percentage is as low as the interned Japanese, I will concede that it was not a mater of race. All the west coast Japanese were interned, not just a segment of the community. By the numbers you quoted earlier it is obvious that the Government had a criteria for selecting specific Italians and specific Germans for the camps. The criteria for the Japanese was simply being Japanese. I know the criteria for the Germans wasn't that broad, because none of my family were interned nor was any other German family that we knew. The paranoia and associated fear of the time is understandable; however, after 60 years failing to recognize the injustice of our actions is inexcusable. |
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An Interview With Chuck Yeager
"Wayne Paul" wrote in message ... OK, let us change that comparison. What percentage of the Germans and Italians interned were actual threats to the security of the war effort. If that percentage is as low as the interned Japanese, I will concede that it was not a mater of race. I don't know, I imagine it's a rather low percentage. All the west coast Japanese were interned, not just a segment of the community. By the numbers you quoted earlier it is obvious that the Government had a criteria for selecting specific Italians and specific Germans for the camps. The criteria for the Japanese was simply being Japanese. What do you base that on? I know the criteria for the Germans wasn't that broad, because none of my family were interned nor was any other German family that we knew. Is that the limit of your research? Why do you assume race was the only issue? Could geography have been an issue? What percentage of Japanese-Americans were concentrated in more defense sensitive areas like the west coast versus less sensitive areas like Milwaukee? Could time or history have been issues? German immigration began before the US revolution, and Germans served in the Comntinental Army. Japanese immigration to the US was more recent. The paranoia and associated fear of the time is understandable; however, after 60 years failing to recognize the injustice of our actions is inexcusable. But we have recognized the injustice done to Japanese-Americans. We haven't recognized the injustice done to German-Americans. Most Americans aren't even aware that US citizens of German descent were interned during WWII. The fact that it was done in fewer numbers than with Japanese-Americans makes it no less of an injustice to those that were interned. |
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