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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message ... "aluckyguess" wrote: If there was enough volume they could build the plane for less than 50k. It would replace all the old Piper, Cessna and Beech 2 and 4 seat aircraft. They sell new cars for way less and there looks to be more work in a new car than a small plane. You have confused the auto business with the airplane business. Auto manufacturing allows economies of scale unatainable by aircraft mfg. And remember, auto makers break even or lose money on many of their models. Like I said they just need the volume and it could be done. Where is the demand going to come from? There are not enough people interested in flying their own planes to even come close to providing manufacturers any economy of scale. At that price it would replace all of the current old 150 to180 size aircraft. An Arrow replace a 180? I don't think so. Your right I should of said fixed gear aircraft. I rest my case. Boy, he certainly has done his market research. Next he'll tell us how he can avoid FAA certification and parts STC's. |
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"aluckyguess" wrote in message ... "Dave Stadt" wrote in message ... "aluckyguess" wrote in message ... "Dan Luke" wrote in message ... "aluckyguess" wrote: If there was enough volume they could build the plane for less than 50k. It would replace all the old Piper, Cessna and Beech 2 and 4 seat aircraft. They sell new cars for way less and there looks to be more work in a new car than a small plane. You have confused the auto business with the airplane business. Auto manufacturing allows economies of scale unatainable by aircraft mfg. And remember, auto makers break even or lose money on many of their models. Like I said they just need the volume and it could be done. Where is the demand going to come from? There are not enough people interested in flying their own planes to even come close to providing manufacturers any economy of scale. At that price it would replace all of the current old 150 to180 size aircraft. They can't sell them as it is at $16-25K and you're going to sell them ones at twice the price? I was shocked when they were shipping seven 767 a month. I think it actually got to 10 or 11 at one point. There is a lot of pilots in the world. I flew my wife to a quilting shop in San Deigo this last week end. I asked the lady there how many of the $20,000 quilting machines they sold last month I thought she would say one or two, they sold 11. As they say, "Context is everything". Just guessing, I guess. |
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But how many would actually want a warrior?
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message ... "Dave Stadt" wrote in message ... "aluckyguess" wrote: If there was enough volume they could build the plane for less than 50k. It would replace all the old Piper, Cessna and Beech 2 and 4 seat aircraft. They sell new cars for way less and there looks to be more work in a new car than a small plane. You have confused the auto business with the airplane business. Auto manufacturing allows economies of scale unatainable by aircraft mfg. And remember, auto makers break even or lose money on many of their models. Like I said they just need the volume and it could be done. Where is the demand going to come from? There are not enough people interested in flying their own planes to even come close to providing manufacturers any economy of scale. At that price it would replace all of the current old 150 to180 size aircraft. An Arrow replace a 180? I don't think so. Your right I should of said fixed gear aircraft. I rest my case. Boy, he certainly has done his market research. Next he'll tell us how he can avoid FAA certification and parts STC's. Maybe he has an STC for a 180RG. |
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"John T" wrote in message ... But how many would actually want a warrior? Not me at any price. |
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:16:01 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote in :: On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:03:01 -0700, "aluckyguess" wrote in :: It will never have the speed of a Glassair. For the CarterCopter to achieve the speed of a Glassair, would require considerable power I believe. There's also the stability issue of the rotor disk in the relative wind at high speed to address. It would take a cleaver fellow in deed to successfully meet Carter's goals. But I wouldn't characterize them as impossible. Here's some more information about the subject TV broadcast: ------------------------------------------------------------------- AVflash Volume 11, Number 16b -- April 21, 2005 ------------------------------------------------------------------- YOUR NEXT CAR COULD BE AN AIRCRAFT... Flying cars are back in the news this week, thanks to Nevada inventor Woody Norris, who is working on an ultralight helicopter called the AirScooter. Norris has won a prestigious inventors' award -- for his work in acoustics, not aviation -- and he and his flying machine were featured in Sunday night's "60 Minutes" show on CBS. Norris has developed a new four-stroke engine for his AirScooter, which has two counter-rotating rotors, and he says it is stable and easy to control. A video clip at his Web site shows the single-seat AirScooter taking off vertically, maneuvering just a few feet above the ground and returning to its launch site. An unmanned version is also in the works. Norris says AirScooters will be available for sale later this year at $50,000 apiece. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#189613 60 Minutes personality, Ed Bradley, was able to get the AirScooter* undercontrol in a few minutes of practice. This looks like the one to watch in the short term. ...DEEP POCKETS COULD MAKE THE DIFFERENCE "60 Minutes" also looked at the CarterCopter and the Moller SkyCar. The CarterCopter prototype has been flying off and on for a few years, but was sidelined by a wheels-up landing and then by an in-flight fire. SkyCar inventor Paul Moller says his futuristic vehicle will fly like a "magic carpet," but so far it has test-flown only while tethered to a crane. But it probably comes closest to the Jetson-style flying car that people imagine the future should bring. Michael Kanellos, of CNET News, speculated last week that flying cars could be the next thing to attract the attention -- and the assets -- of the high-tech billionaires and entrepreneurs who have been funding much of the new space industry. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#189614 Perhaps these folks should be contacted regarding the latest developments in this area of aviation: http://www.venturewire.com/Default.aspx * http://www.airscooter.com/pages/airscooter_main.htm |
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Aluckyguess,
The plane can be built for the price its the untangibles that might cause the problem like liability insurance. If thats 50k a plane than it cant be done. Which is why everybody except you is too dumb to figure it out? -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ... Aluckyguess, The plane can be built for the price its the untangibles that might cause the problem like liability insurance. If thats 50k a plane than it cant be done. Which is why everybody except you is too dumb to figure it out? -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) Ya I guess your right. Looks like Diamond Stars are going to be made in China. How much do you think that plane is going to cost to build. Your probably right it cant be done. Oh wait isn't someone building a 6 passenger jet for around 1 million. I think they said that couldn't be done either. |
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"aluckyguess" wrote in message ... Ya I guess your right. Looks like Diamond Stars are going to be made in China. How much do you think that plane is going to cost to build. Your probably right it cant be done. Oh wait isn't someone building a 6 passenger jet for around 1 million. I think they said that couldn't be done either. Isn't for sale yet. Oddly, those numbers usually explode, the closer they get to delivery. Let's wait and se if they can deliver it for $1M without taking massive losses to do so. Matt --------------------- Matthew W. Barrow Site-Fill Homes, LLC. Montrose, CO |
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"aluckyguess" wrote in message ... "Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ... Aluckyguess, The plane can be built for the price its the untangibles that might cause the problem like liability insurance. If thats 50k a plane than it cant be done. Which is why everybody except you is too dumb to figure it out? -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) Ya I guess your right. Looks like Diamond Stars are going to be made in China. How much do you think that plane is going to cost to build. Your probably right it cant be done. Oh wait isn't someone building a 6 passenger jet for around 1 million. I think they said that couldn't be done either. It has not been done and I will give 10 to 1 it will not be done. Did ya find the 180 RG yet? |
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