Challenging instrument approaches?

I'm looking for challenging instrument approaches in the United States
that I can have my students fly on the simulator.

I'd be interested in hearing your suggestions. Any type of IAP is
welcome as long as it makes the pilot work a little bit.

Tia

Richard Kowalski

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I'm looking for challenging instrument approaches in the United States
that I can have my students fly on the simulator.

I'd be interested in hearing your suggestions. Any type of IAP is
welcome as long as it makes the pilot work a little bit.

Tia

Richard Kowalski


I like the LOC-8 at DXR. There's nothing particularly magic about it,
but it has a few twists which throw people who havn't properly briefed
the approach, and thus makes for a good lesson.

The missed hold is a VOR-VOR fix. If you havn't got things set up
before you start the approach, you've got a lot of radio work to get the
fix dialed in before you get there.

Also, the airport's rotating beacon is up on a hilltop about a half mile
from the runway. If you see the beacon and get fooled into just flying
straight for that visually, you can get led astray.

Lastly, the LOC course is not quite aligned with the runway centerline
(it's off by a few degrees). This can lead to a little confusion.

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I'm looking for challenging instrument approaches in the United States
that I can have my students fly on the simulator.


LOC/DME BC RWY 21 Homer, AK (HOM/PAHO)

DME arc off of a VOR onto a DME back course, followed by a miss and hold
on the BC extension. LOTS of opportunity to screw up

Happy Flying!
Scott Skylane

I'm looking for challenging instrument approaches in the United States
that I can have my students fly on the simulator.

NDB-A at EVY (Middletown, DE): final approach course is towards an NDB beyond
the field (the LOM for the ILS at a different airport)

NDB 17 at THV (York, PA): another approach where the FAF is an intersection on
a bearing to the NDB

LOC BC 24 at ABE (Allentown, PA): nice hold at an intersection on the back
course

VOR/DME 15 at MTN (Baltimore / Martin State): final approach course is a DME
arc tangent to the runway

Barry

Ok, what am I missing. I looked up the approach plate (on AOPA), and do
not see how JABER is defined. Is it a radial off the LRP VOR?

Looks like a good practice approach if you use JABER for the IAF.

Dan

Barry wrote:
I'm looking for challenging instrument approaches in the United States
that I can have my students fly on the simulator.


NDB-A at EVY (Middletown, DE): final approach course is towards an NDB beyond
the field (the LOM for the ILS at a different airport)

NDB 17 at THV (York, PA): another approach where the FAF is an intersection on
a bearing to the NDB

LOC BC 24 at ABE (Allentown, PA): nice hold at an intersection on the back
course

VOR/DME 15 at MTN (Baltimore / Martin State): final approach course is a DME
arc tangent to the runway

Barry





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"Barry" wrote:

NDB 17 at THV (York, PA): another approach where
the FAF is an intersection on a bearing to the NDB

Hmmm. That brings back memories....

I'm based at THV, so I did a few of those during my instrument training.

GPS salesmen love it, I'm sure.......

--
Mike Granby, PP-ASEL,IA
Warrior N44578
http://www.mikeg.net/plane

NDB 17 at THV (York, PA): another approach where the FAF is an
intersection on a bearing to the NDB

Ok, what am I missing. I looked up the approach plate (on AOPA), and do
not see how JABER is defined. Is it a radial off the LRP VOR?

JABER is 20 DME from HAR, or a Radar fix called by ATC. I think that it also
used to be defined via a radial from LRP.

Looks like a good practice approach if you use JABER for the IAF.

Right, and to get to JABER, ATC gives you direct EUD, and you track outbound
on the feeder route.

Another good approach is the ILS 10 at MIV (Millville, NJ) via the RNB NDB.

Barry

Shot that one on my long cross country. (Actually it was a localizer
approach as the GS was out of service.)

Dan

Barry wrote:

Another good approach is the ILS 10 at MIV (Millville, NJ) via the RNB NDB.

Barry






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I always like the VOR or GPS RWY1 3R or L at KJFK.

Two I like a

KRYN NDB/DME 0r GP RWY 6R
http://www.myairplane.com/databases/...YN_nd_gr6R.pdf

DME arc onto an NDB approach.
Go missed, and you have to climb in an NDB hold over the airport, then
back for

KRYN ILS RWY 6R
http://www.myairplane.com/databases/...t/RYN_ir6R.pdf

for an offset hold procedure turn.

Tim Auckland.