First-hand video of a BRS deployment.

Kev writes:

Never mind, I googled it myself, and here's a good summary from the
USAF:

1. Mid-air collisions generally occur during weekend daylight hours
56% of the accidents occurred in the afternoon.
32% of the accidents occurred in the morning.
2% of the accidents occurred at night, dusk, or dawn.
2. Most mid-air collisions occur under good visibility.
3. The majority of the aircraft involved in collisions are not on any
type of flight plan.
4. Nearly all accidents occur at or near uncontrolled airports and at
altitudes below 1000 ft.
5. Flight fatigue is not a major factor in most mid-air collisions.
6. The average flight time prior to the collision is 45 minutes. This
time varies from takeoff to over seven hours.
60% of the pilots on the mishap flight had been airborne thirty
minutes or less.
Only 6% had been flying longer than two hours.
7. Pilots of all experience levels are involved in mid-air collisions,
from the first solo ride to 20,000 hour veterans.

What's the URL, and what else did they have to say about the problem?

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Casey Wilson writes:

He was talking about you, you idiot.

I'm not an idiot, so he could not have been talking about me.

If you get in trouble with your computer game, all you have to
do is cancel the game.

You don't do that with Ctrl-Alt-Del. On Windows XP, this key sequence calls
up the task manager, which is normally not used to stop applications or
processes.

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I once thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken!

Scott
Yes, A Real Pilot

Mxsmanic wrote:

Richard Riley writes:


Or else you'll be wrong.


So I'll be just like many real pilots, who are also wrong.

VORs? Who flies over VORs? GPS eliminated VOR in my vocabulary in 1993

Scott



Kev wrote:




Absolute agreement. To me, it's a good reason to be "heads up" when
flying over VORs, since they can really concentrate aircraft. Most
of us are spending more time on the gauges watching for the arrow to
change.

Still, maybe it's a non-issue, since we don't seem to hear of lots of
collisions around VORs. Seems like mid-airs are mostly around
airports. Anyone know the real stats of locations offhand?

Thanks, Kev

I disagree in principle. "Pacing" would imply everyone maintaining a
fixed distance between them and going at the same speed. That doesn't
happen often in "real" aviation. I cruise toward the imaginary VOR at
75 MPH. United 405 may be at 550 MPH (granted I am at 500 feet and they
are at 34,500 feet)...but my friend behind me may be at 500 feet and 110
MPH, therefore I better be checkin' six.

Determine the exact position of each aircraft? Nope, I don't have a
transponder and unless ATC is using primary radar, they don't even know
I exist at that VOR.

Scott


Mxsmanic wrote:


If traffic is precisely paced along airways, that could increase the risk, by
creating dangerous periods during which multiple aircraft might arrive at the
same spot at the same time.

Precise traffic control increases safety to the extent that you can control
and determine the exact position of all aircraft at the same time, but it also
diminishes safety to the extent that you _cannot_ do these things.

Now if I put 100 people in a hallway that is 4' wide and 100 yards long and have them randomly walk around

In the corridor they don't randomly walk around. They walk in lines.

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6. The average flight time prior to the collision is 45 minutes. This
time varies from takeoff to over seven hours.
60% of the pilots on the mishap flight had been airborne thirty
minutes or less.
Only 6% had been flying longer than two hours.

For this to be meaningful, one would need to relate it to the typical
flight time - for example, at any given instant, x% of pilots have been
airborne for how long?

Jose
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Scott writes:

I disagree in principle. "Pacing" would imply everyone maintaining a
fixed distance between them and going at the same speed. That doesn't
happen often in "real" aviation.

I know, but if it did, it could create additional problems.

Rigidly controlling separation is fine as long as the controls work. If they
slip, however, the likelihood of accidents is vastly increased over a system
that isn't predicated on such rigid control.

Determine the exact position of each aircraft? Nope, I don't have a
transponder and unless ATC is using primary radar, they don't even know
I exist at that VOR.

Yup. But that may change in the future. Start saving now, so that you can
install $100,000 worth of new avionics in your aircraft to tell Big Brother
about your every move.

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Scott writes:

VORs? Who flies over VORs? GPS eliminated VOR in my vocabulary in 1993

Anyone who wants to stay safe in the air flies VORs periodically. I practice
it regularly.

What will you do when GPS is jammed in your area?

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If traffic is precisely paced along airways, that could increase the risk,
by
creating dangerous periods during which multiple aircraft might arrive at
the
same spot at the same time.