Gasohol

Blueskies wrote:

And that means that all of us using gasohol are getting worse gas mileage than we would get with straight gasoline.

I have personally verified that to be true in my vehicles.

All of New England has 10% gasohol at the auto pump...
However, it isn't blended in until it gets to this regon... so many aero
clubs can still get batches of straight gas
Greg Dwinell




"mike regish" wrote in message
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I'm pretty sure Mass. is already there. I don't know if there's a minimum,
but we've got 10% ethanol everywhere now.

mike

"tony roberts" wrote in message
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Is it true that there is no longer any requirement to label gasoline
contaminated with alcohol?

Worse.
I read that, starting in 2007, in some places, California and some
Canadian Provinces included, it is regulated that all gasoline sold must
contain at least 5% alcohol/ethanol.

Tony
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Tony Roberts
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VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

"orange" wrote in message
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All of New England has 10% gasohol at the auto pump...
However, it isn't blended in until it gets to this regon... so many aero
clubs can still get batches of straight gas
Greg Dwinell


I just saw this on the EAA site:


ETHANOL-FREE AUTOFUEL TO BE AVAILABLE AT THREE NEW ENGLAND
AIRPORTS STARTING IN JUNE



http://www.eaa.org/communications/ea..._autofuel.html

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
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"orange" wrote in message news:x6N7i.4362$aW5.2739@trndny09...
All of New England has 10% gasohol at the auto pump...
However, it isn't blended in until it gets to this regon... so many aero clubs can still get batches of straight gas
Greg Dwinell


I just saw this on the EAA site:


ETHANOL-FREE AUTOFUEL TO BE AVAILABLE AT THREE NEW ENGLAND AIRPORTS STARTING IN JUNE



http://www.eaa.org/communications/ea..._autofuel.html


And I'm sure it will cost way more to be processed less, kinda like that organic food....

Somebody in the Piper group just posted that Peterson (the STC provider) is
going to start getting 91 octane ethanol free autogas at a couple of
airports out here.

I'll get the info and post it here.

mike

"orange" wrote in message
news:x6N7i.4362$aW5.2739@trndny09...
All of New England has 10% gasohol at the auto pump...
However, it isn't blended in until it gets to this regon... so many aero
clubs can still get batches of straight gas
Greg Dwinell




"mike regish" wrote in message
. ..
I'm pretty sure Mass. is already there. I don't know if there's a
minimum, but we've got 10% ethanol everywhere now.

mike

"tony roberts" wrote in message
news:indiacharlieecho-9E437A.22120430052007@shawnews...

Is it true that there is no longer any requirement to label gasoline
contaminated with alcohol?

Worse.
I read that, starting in 2007, in some places, California and some
Canadian Provinces included, it is regulated that all gasoline sold must
contain at least 5% alcohol/ethanol.

Tony
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Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

Here it is.

Petersen Aviation, Inc., which like EAA provides autofuel
supplementary type certificates (STC), reports it will begin
distributing non-ethanol, 91-octane gasoline to three New England
airports during the first week of June 2007. The airports include
Minuteman Airport (6B6) in Stow, Massachusetts (978-897-3933);
Plymouth Airport (PYM) in Plymouth, Massachusetts (508-746-2020);
and Skylark Airport (7B6), East Windsor, Connecticut
(860-623-8085).

Only ethanol-blended gasoline has been available at New England
service stations over the past several years. This has made it
impossible for pilots who hold EAA and Petersen Aviation autogas
STCs, or other aircraft that can use autofuel, including many
light-sport aircraft and homebuilts, to find suitable fuel. But
since automotive gasoline sold at airports for use in aircraft is
considered “aviation” gasoline, it is exempt from oxygenated fuel
requirements under the Federal Reformulated Gasoline (RFG) program.
Therefore importing non-ethanol gasoline into regions such as New
England is allowed.

Peterson says the ethanol-free 91-octane gasoline will be certified
to meet the specifications required by both Petersen and EAA STCs.

mike


"orange" wrote in message
news:x6N7i.4362$aW5.2739@trndny09...
All of New England has 10% gasohol at the auto pump...
However, it isn't blended in until it gets to this regon... so many aero
clubs can still get batches of straight gas
Greg Dwinell

On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:18:37 GMT, "orange" wrote:

All of New England has 10% gasohol at the auto pump...
However, it isn't blended in until it gets to this regon... so many aero
clubs can still get batches of straight gas

The last part is correct in my experience. Hampton Airfield buys its
mogas from the terminal in Portland ME.

The wonderful thing about ethanol is that it can't presently be pumped
through pipelines, so straight gasoline is theoretically available at
whatever central point it's mixed in.


Blue skies! -- Dan Ford

Claire Chennault and His American Volunteers, 1941-1942
forthcoming from HarperCollins www.flyingtigersbook.com

On Thu, 31 May 2007 05:11:27 GMT, tony roberts
wrote:


Is it true that there is no longer any requirement to label gasoline
contaminated with alcohol?

Worse.
I read that, starting in 2007, in some places, California and some
Canadian Provinces included, it is regulated that all gasoline sold must
contain at least 5% alcohol/ethanol.

Tony
Here in Ontario I was told not all gasoline must have 5% alky, but 5%
of all fuel sold must be alky - so 50% of all fuel sold being E10
satisfies the requirement. In practice, virtually all 87 octane will
be e10. Premium 91 will (from some companies, at least) be E0, making
the blended 89 E5. Since significantly over half the gasoline sold in
Ontario is 87 octane, this would excede the requirements. - Just from
what I've been told, but you can never trust the elected idiots, or
worse yet the beurocrats

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clare at snyder.on.ca wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 05:11:27 GMT, tony roberts
wrote:


Is it true that there is no longer any requirement to label gasoline
contaminated with alcohol?

Worse.
I read that, starting in 2007, in some places, California and some
Canadian Provinces included, it is regulated that all gasoline sold must
contain at least 5% alcohol/ethanol.

Tony
Here in Ontario I was told not all gasoline must have 5% alky, but 5%
of all fuel sold must be alky - so 50% of all fuel sold being E10
satisfies the requirement. In practice, virtually all 87 octane will
be e10. Premium 91 will (from some companies, at least) be E0, making
the blended 89 E5. Since significantly over half the gasoline sold in
Ontario is 87 octane, this would excede the requirements. - Just from
what I've been told, but you can never trust the elected idiots, or
worse yet the beurocrats


IF I ever get a plane, all these silly fuel issues would be a real irritant.
I haven't been paying much attention to the new diesel aircraft engines
becoming available. Since I should be making my own biodiesel by the end of
this Summer (for something less than 45 cents a gallon), are any of the new
diesels in the O-200/Rotax 912 class?

"Ken Finney" wrote in message
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clare at snyder.on.ca wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 05:11:27 GMT, tony roberts
wrote:


Is it true that there is no longer any requirement to label gasoline
contaminated with alcohol?

Worse.
I read that, starting in 2007, in some places, California and some
Canadian Provinces included, it is regulated that all gasoline sold must
contain at least 5% alcohol/ethanol.

Tony
Here in Ontario I was told not all gasoline must have 5% alky, but 5%
of all fuel sold must be alky - so 50% of all fuel sold being E10
satisfies the requirement. In practice, virtually all 87 octane will
be e10. Premium 91 will (from some companies, at least) be E0, making
the blended 89 E5. Since significantly over half the gasoline sold in
Ontario is 87 octane, this would excede the requirements. - Just from
what I've been told, but you can never trust the elected idiots, or
worse yet the beurocrats


IF I ever get a plane, all these silly fuel issues would be a real
irritant. I haven't been paying much attention to the new diesel aircraft
engines becoming available. Since I should be making my own biodiesel by
the end of this Summer (for something less than 45 cents a gallon), are
any of the new diesels in the O-200/Rotax 912 class?




What do you grow to make biodiesel?

Al G