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Old July 1st 03, 03:01 AM
Victor J. Osborne, Jr.
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Agree that you have to get back in the air and it s/b w/ a CFI.

My 1st post-crash flight was in a new plane as the previous one was
destroyed.

Thx, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.



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Old July 8th 03, 03:21 AM
Jay Honeck
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I'm in this boat myself. Nosegear collapse after landing my brand new
(to me) Beech Sierra, in May. I won't get it back until Sept, and I
haven't really been up since the "incident". Also no one hurt with
ours---family was aboard and rather shaken.


Holy cats, Jeff -- what happened?

And why the long turn-around time? That's a pretty long time for an
overhaul...
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Iowa City, IA
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Old July 8th 03, 04:10 PM
Russell Kent
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Jeff Osier-Mixon wrote:

I'm in this boat myself. Nosegear collapse after landing my brand new (to
me) Beech Sierra, in May. I won't get it back until Sept, and I haven't
really been up since the "incident". Also no one hurt with ours---family
was aboard and rather shaken.


Jay Honeck replied:

Holy cats, Jeff -- what happened?

And why the long turn-around time? That's a pretty long time for an
overhaul...


Well, in hindsight it probably would have been better not to have continued
to taxi to parking... :-)

Glad everyone is ok Jeff.

Russell Kent

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Old July 9th 03, 02:56 PM
Jay Honeck
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Yep, that was our major mistake. No more parking for us! From now on,
ALL landings are to be touch and go...


Wow -- what a story.

Sorry to hear it -- but think how cool that 3-blade prop's gonna look!
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
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Old July 9th 03, 06:01 PM
Ross Richardson
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I had a friend that replaced his two blade with a three blade on a
Debonair and lost cruise speed. Still looked good.

Jay Honeck wrote:

Yep, that was our major mistake. No more parking for us! From now on,
ALL landings are to be touch and go...


Wow -- what a story.

Sorry to hear it -- but think how cool that 3-blade prop's gonna look!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old July 9th 03, 06:53 PM
Ray Andraka
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Looks the same as a 2 blade when it's spinnin'.

3 blade presents more frontal area, thus more drag (slower cruise), is heavier,
and more expensive to overhaul. The advantages are mostly ramp appeal, less
noise, better ground clearance, and perhaps a better climb rate. I think I'll
stick with my 2 blades.

Ross Richardson wrote:

I had a friend that replaced his two blade with a three blade on a
Debonair and lost cruise speed. Still looked good.


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Old July 9th 03, 07:49 PM
Thomas Lembessis
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Sounds like you have a good insurance company. Back in 1989, the right
main gear didn't come down in my Seneca. My first thought after q
tipping the right prop was "thank goodness my deductable is $500"
Sure!

My insurance company wouldn't pay for worn out parts that Mattituck
found during the teardown. And since the right prop had some 1000 hrs
on it, they tried to prorate this against the cost of a new prop. (as
opposed to against the cost of an overhaul). They (Comav insurance)
eventually paid me for a new prop.

Total cost to me was $6100 , including repairing the gear (an SDR was
written up for the trunion bolt) Some 500 deductable, huh?


Thomas Lembessis
ATP, F/E (B727)

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:waVOa.17800$H17.5859@sccrnsc02...
Yep, that was our major mistake. No more parking for us! From now on,
ALL landings are to be touch and go...


Wow -- what a story.

Sorry to hear it -- but think how cool that 3-blade prop's gonna look!

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Old July 9th 03, 07:51 PM
David Megginson
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Ross Richardson writes:

I had a friend that replaced his two blade with a three blade on a
Debonair and lost cruise speed. Still looked good.


Someone posted a funny little quip about that recently. From memory:

Two is for go, three is for show.


All the best,


David

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Old July 9th 03, 08:15 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Thomas Lembessis" wrote in message m...
Sounds like you have a good insurance company. Back in 1989, the right
main gear didn't come down in my Seneca. My first thought after q
tipping the right prop was "thank goodness my deductable is $500"
Sure!


I have a zero deductable, but it's going to cost me a bundle after my engine
failure. Lets see:
1. Damage to landing gear during emergency landing $1200
2. Overhaul prop from minor scrape with edge of runway, $3000
3. Tear down engine because of prop strike, $3500

Replace firewall forward because engine is toast ... Priceless



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Old July 9th 03, 08:47 PM
Jeff Osier-Mixon
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"Less noise" and "better climb rate" are what got me. Others with the
same plane/prop combination report a loss of about 1-2 knots, but an
increase in climb by 100fpm. That can make a big difference in a weak
climber like the Sierra.


Ray Andraka wrote:

Looks the same as a 2 blade when it's spinnin'.

3 blade presents more frontal area, thus more drag (slower cruise), is heavier,
and more expensive to overhaul. The advantages are mostly ramp appeal, less
noise, better ground clearance, and perhaps a better climb rate. I think I'll
stick with my 2 blades.




 




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