t-hangar and ice

In preparation for winter, I have a question.

the situation: T-hangar with bi-fold doors. Run-off from the roof
collects in front of the hangar door (because the tarmac doesn't
slope away from the hangar - in fact there is a slight dip in
front of the hangar). In the winter, water collects and then
freezes. Eventually the water penetrates under the door and
freezes inside the hangar. The result is a patch of ice about
4 to 6 feet wide, about half inside and half outside the door.
(imagine walking into a dark hangar and having black ice just
inside the door - weeeeee!!! splat!)

The best that Massport has come up with to date is to leave
the door slightly up so that the door won't freeze to the ground.
This does nothing with respect to being able to push/pull the
airplane in/out of the hangar.

Are there any suggestions on how to deal with ice in front
of the door?

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...

In preparation for winter, I have a question.

the situation: T-hangar with bi-fold doors. Run-off from the roof
collects in front of the hangar door (because the tarmac doesn't
slope away from the hangar - in fact there is a slight dip in
front of the hangar). In the winter, water collects and then
freezes. Eventually the water penetrates under the door and
freezes inside the hangar. The result is a patch of ice about
4 to 6 feet wide, about half inside and half outside the door.
(imagine walking into a dark hangar and having black ice just
inside the door - weeeeee!!! splat!)

The best that Massport has come up with to date is to leave
the door slightly up so that the door won't freeze to the ground.
This does nothing with respect to being able to push/pull the
airplane in/out of the hangar.

Are there any suggestions on how to deal with ice in front
of the door?

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.

Buy an east facing hangar. In IL we have the same problem. Only known cure
is an east facing door. The morning and early afternoon sun keeps them free
of ice while west facing have a constant battle to get rid of the ridge of
ice. I would guess north facing would have the same problem. South facing
should be fine also.

In article ,
Bob Noel wrote:

Are there any suggestions on how to deal with ice in front
of the door?

You could get a rubber matt with relatively open grid/hex pattern that's
thicker than the expected ice accumulation so that even if 1/2" of ice
builds up there is some bit of rubber sticking through.

--
Ben Jackson

http://www.ben.com/

In article , "Dave
Stadt" wrote:

Are there any suggestions on how to deal with ice in front
of the door?

Buy an east facing hangar. [snip]

unfortunately, it is an east facing hangar. Well, it's more
like northeast. :-(

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.

In article cMhbd.251848$3l3.106279@attbi_s03, (Ben
Jackson) wrote:

Are there any suggestions on how to deal with ice in front
of the door?

You could get a rubber matt with relatively open grid/hex pattern that's
thicker than the expected ice accumulation so that even if 1/2" of ice
builds up there is some bit of rubber sticking through.

hmmm. I think that should work for just inside the entrance door.
Unfortunately last winter I saw ice outside the hangar that was
at least 2" thick. But I like the idea of not slipping on ice
inside my hangar.

Thanks

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.

Get a couple bags of pea gravel and sand, spread it in the low spot to
deflect the water away from the hangar.

Bob Noel wrote:
In preparation for winter, I have a question.

the situation: T-hangar with bi-fold doors. Run-off from the roof
collects in front of the hangar door (because the tarmac doesn't
slope away from the hangar - in fact there is a slight dip in
front of the hangar). In the winter, water collects and then
freezes. Eventually the water penetrates under the door and
freezes inside the hangar. The result is a patch of ice about
4 to 6 feet wide, about half inside and half outside the door.
(imagine walking into a dark hangar and having black ice just
inside the door - weeeeee!!! splat!)

The best that Massport has come up with to date is to leave
the door slightly up so that the door won't freeze to the ground.
This does nothing with respect to being able to push/pull the
airplane in/out of the hangar.

Are there any suggestions on how to deal with ice in front
of the door?

Get a couple bags of pea gravel and sand, spread it in the low spot to
deflect the water away from the hangar.

Under NO circumstances should you spread pea gravel or sand in front of your
hangar door.

Our hangar neighbor did that last year, and that damned stuff ended up all
over our tarmac. Can you say "sandblasted"?

You can get the same result with a few bags of asphalt patch, which is more
durable and won't blow away.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

You can get the same result with a few bags of asphalt patch, which is
more durable and won't blow away.
--

I don't think MASSPORT would appreciate him modifying the local tarmac.

Maybe some kitty litter for the inside.. and sweep it up as soon as the ice
is gone.. save it for re-use. Put nothing down outside you would not want
another aircraft to blow into your airplane.

JM2C
BT

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:59:28 GMT, Bob Noel
wrote:


In preparation for winter, I have a question.

the situation: T-hangar with bi-fold doors. Run-off from the roof
collects in front of the hangar door (because the tarmac doesn't
slope away from the hangar - in fact there is a slight dip in
front of the hangar). In the winter, water collects and then
freezes. Eventually the water penetrates under the door and
freezes inside the hangar. The result is a patch of ice about
4 to 6 feet wide, about half inside and half outside the door.
(imagine walking into a dark hangar and having black ice just
inside the door - weeeeee!!! splat!)

When I had the Deb in a hanger like that I picked up a couple pieces
of carpet. When needed I'd throw them down in front of the plane, or
where ever they were needed. They even gave my little tug good
traction.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


The best that Massport has come up with to date is to leave
the door slightly up so that the door won't freeze to the ground.
This does nothing with respect to being able to push/pull the
airplane in/out of the hangar.

Are there any suggestions on how to deal with ice in front
of the door?

In article , Roger
wrote:

When I had the Deb in a hanger like that I picked up a couple pieces
of carpet. When needed I'd throw them down in front of the plane, or
where ever they were needed. They even gave my little tug good
traction.

How come the rug didn't slip?

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.