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Old July 4th 06, 02:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Default Ladies & Gentlemen: Happy Fourth!

To my Fellow Americans: Happy Independence Day!

Just think, if we hadn't won the war for independence from Great
Britain, some 230 years ago, we all wouldn't be speaking Spanish
today... :-)

Seriously, where else can a man hop in his own airplane, load it up
with car gas, and take his family for a 9 day flight around the Great
Lakes, without ever once being required to fill out paperwork or bribe
some petty government official? Where else can one land at literally
thousands of airfields, borrow a car, and head off to see the sights,
knowing full-well that the aircraft will still be there when we return?


For all its foibles, we Americans still live in the free-est country in
history, and let's not ever forget it. Better yet, let's make sure it
stays that way!

Now go celebrate Independence Day -- by flying!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old July 4th 06, 02:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Quilljar
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Default Ladies & Gentlemen: Happy Fourth!

Jay Honeck wrote:

Seriously, where else can a man hop in his own airplane, load it up
with car gas, and take his family for a 9 day flight around the Great
Lakes, without ever once being required to fill out paperwork or bribe
some petty government official? Where else can one land at literally
thousands of airfields, borrow a car, and head off to see the sights,
knowing full-well that the aircraft will still be there when we
return?


Certainly have a happy Independence Day but you ask where else can you do
these things? I can vouch personally that the UK, and New Zealand offer the
same freedoms, and I am quite sure several more countries too!

Cheers Quilly

For four good books to read look at...
http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm
Buy three or four altogether and get economy postage.


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Old July 4th 06, 04:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default Ladies & Gentlemen: Happy Fourth!

At one time, back about 1911, the UK and its colonies were
reasonably free places. Today, possession of a pocket
knife, a firearm or even a door lock that you won't open for
police inspection will land you in the slammer.


There is only one USA and one U.S. Constitution and Bill of
Rights.


"Quilljar" wrote in message
...
| Jay Honeck wrote:
|
| Seriously, where else can a man hop in his own airplane,
load it up
| with car gas, and take his family for a 9 day flight
around the Great
| Lakes, without ever once being required to fill out
paperwork or bribe
| some petty government official? Where else can one
land at literally
| thousands of airfields, borrow a car, and head off to
see the sights,
| knowing full-well that the aircraft will still be there
when we
| return?
|
| Certainly have a happy Independence Day but you ask where
else can you do
| these things? I can vouch personally that the UK, and New
Zealand offer the
| same freedoms, and I am quite sure several more countries
too!
|
| Cheers Quilly
|
| For four good books to read look at...
| http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm
| Buy three or four altogether and get economy postage.
|
|


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Old July 4th 06, 06:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Duniho
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Default Ladies & Gentlemen: Happy Fourth!

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:itwqg.60629$ZW3.8463@dukeread04...
At one time, back about 1911, the UK and its colonies were
reasonably free places. Today, possession of a pocket
knife, a firearm or even a door lock that you won't open for
police inspection will land you in the slammer.


If you don't think that the US is headed in that direction, you have your
eyes closed. The government's fear-mongering, and the US population's
demand for "security at all costs" is driving us there at an alarming pace.

It's not as though knives and guns in the US are uniformly allowed (never
mind weapons with higher firepower), and digital privacy is the current
front on which the US government is looking to require a "master key"
provided to law enforcement. Once the government has carte blanche to
eavesdrop on our conversations, it's only a matter of time before they also
are given the power to enter your house at will.

And by the way, if the police have a valid warrant, it is already a crime to
not open a door lock for them.

I'm amazed that you see a significant difference between the US and the
other places you mention, with respect to the issues you mention.

There is only one USA and one U.S. Constitution and Bill of
Rights.


The sooner we get back to using those documents, the better.


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Old July 4th 06, 03:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default Ladies & Gentlemen: Happy Fourth!

On 4 Jul 2006 06:01:58 -0700, "Jay Honeck" wrote
in .com::

For all its foibles, we Americans still live in the free-est country in
history, and let's not ever forget it. Better yet, let's make sure it
stays that way!



How? By convicting the president of overstepping the power of his
office and holding hundreds without benefit of judicial due process,
spying on citizens' telephone conversations without a warrant as
mandated by law, authorizing 1984esque 'sneak and peek' searches, ...
?

Enjoy your freedom while you can. It can't continue if the religious
right stays in power.

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Old July 4th 06, 03:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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Default Ladies & Gentlemen: Happy Fourth!

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

On 4 Jul 2006 06:01:58 -0700, "Jay Honeck" wrote
in .com::

For all its foibles, we Americans still live in the free-est country in
history, and let's not ever forget it. Better yet, let's make sure it
stays that way!



How? By convicting the president of overstepping the power of his
office and holding hundreds without benefit of judicial due process,
spying on citizens' telephone conversations without a warrant as
mandated by law, authorizing 1984esque 'sneak and peek' searches, ...
?

Enjoy your freedom while you can. It can't continue if the religious
right stays in power.


false premise

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

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Old July 4th 06, 03:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Default Ladies & Gentlemen: Happy Fourth!

Bob Noel wrote:

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:


On 4 Jul 2006 06:01:58 -0700, "Jay Honeck" wrote
in .com::


For all its foibles, we Americans still live in the free-est country in
history, and let's not ever forget it. Better yet, let's make sure it
stays that way!



How? By convicting the president of overstepping the power of his
office and holding hundreds without benefit of judicial due process,
spying on citizens' telephone conversations without a warrant as
mandated by law, authorizing 1984esque 'sneak and peek' searches, ...
?

Enjoy your freedom while you can. It can't continue if the religious
right stays in power.



false premise


And a false conclusion. Other than that, a very sound argument! :-)

Matt
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Old July 4th 06, 08:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default Ladies & Gentlemen: Happy Fourth!

On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 10:31:23 -0400, Bob Noel
wrote in
::

Enjoy your freedom while you can. It can't continue if the religious
right stays in power.


false premise


I know you're capable of communicating in complete sentences. If
you've got something to say, say it.

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Old July 4th 06, 09:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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Default Ladies & Gentlemen: Happy Fourth!

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

Enjoy your freedom while you can. It can't continue if the religious
right stays in power.


false premise


If
you've got something to say, say it.


I did. You have a false premise.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

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Old July 4th 06, 10:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Default Ladies & Gentlemen: Happy Fourth!

Bob Noel wrote:

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:


Enjoy your freedom while you can. It can't continue if the religious
right stays in power.

false premise


If
you've got something to say, say it.



I did. You have a false premise.


Bob, I think you need to explain to him what premise means.

Matt
 




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