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I followed the highway from BC.
The Highway is one way to go to Fairbanks, although the Cassiar Highway is more spectacular if the wx is good. We rented a car in Whitehorse and drove down to Skagway. A good way to do it. vince norris |
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wrote in message ups.com... Alaska regs no longer require you to carry a firearm, but they highly recommend it (as do I). I took a 12-gauge with slugs. Hmm, never hunted brown bear, but my gut instinct is that I'd go with buckshot in that use case. I'd much rather hit Yogi with one pellet of 00 than whizz a slug right past him. Maybe load a slug or two first and then 2-3 rounds of 00 and hope you never need them. If you're talking real survival you might want to carry a box of birdshot too to use for hunting. Hit anything smaller than a deer with a 12ga slug and there isn't going to be much meat left. -cwk. |
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Colin W Kingsbury wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... Alaska regs no longer require you to carry a firearm, but they highly recommend it (as do I). I took a 12-gauge with slugs. Hmm, never hunted brown bear, but my gut instinct is that I'd go with buckshot in that use case. I'd much rather hit Yogi with one pellet of 00 than whizz a slug right past him. Maybe load a slug or two first and then 2-3 rounds of 00 and hope you never need them. An 00 pellet would just make a brown bear really mad. I'd definitely stick with the slugs. Personally, I'd prefer a .338 Win Mag or larger, but a slug at close range would like be effective. If you're talking real survival you might want to carry a box of birdshot too to use for hunting. Hit anything smaller than a deer with a 12ga slug and there isn't going to be much meat left. Yes, that is one advantage of a scattergun ... you can carry a variety of ammo. Personally, I'd probably be just as happy with my Super Blackhawk. It is much more compact than a shotgun and you can get shot loads for the .44 Mag as well that are adequate for small game. The .44 is marginal for bear, but better than a stick! Matt |
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Colin W Kingsbury wrote: Hmm, never hunted brown bear, but my gut instinct is that I'd go with buckshot in that use case. I'd much rather hit Yogi with one pellet of 00 than whizz a slug right past him. Maybe load a slug or two first and then 2-3 rounds of 00 and hope you never need them. I did a photo trip with L.L. Rue once, and he described going after bears in Alaska. He said the outfit that flew them in provided them with short shotguns for defense. IIRC, he said the first two shells were buckshot and the last was a slug. He and his son were trying to get in a good position, and one of the bears started heading for his son. He said that after the bear moved off, he didn't know until the film was processed whether he had reached for the camera or the shotgun (turned out it was the camera). His son didn't seem to be real pleased with that story. George Patterson I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company. |
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I've been up to Alaska and back twice in my Husky, as well as two trips
to Canada. There are usually tailwinds up the coast and tail winds down the Alaska highway, or the more more scenic but less historical Cassiar highway (through Smithers). The coast in the summer is doable, but cloudier than inland. There really is no way to know where the best weather would be. I would fly where the good weather is. Any and all of the routes are doable in a small airplane, though the Coast route does not follow a highway. There are three highways connecting the inland to the coast, all are mountainous. Canada permits longguns, essentially no pistols. There is a $50 Canadian fee and you have to declare them. Although there is a rather outdated, almost never enforced rule that you have a radio permit, if you doon't have one, don't bother. No one asks. I'd recommend carrying some food and survival gear, though it is not mandatory. Pistols are ok in a plane in Alaska but how are you going to get it there? No concealed carry on your person without permits in Alaska. Basically if you bring a gun, a shotgun makes the most sense and is the most politically correct. I've haven't been bothering, never have needed one. To cross the border, file a US flightplan and call Canadian Customs. It is easier to clear Customs at an airport that is not major, but is still big enough to have a full time Customs officer, so he doesn't have to drive in. Better to be a little late than early with your arrival. Flight plans are pretty much mandatory in Canada. Sporty's or some similar place sells charts, and you need the Canadian equivalent to the US Airport Facilities book. I used WACs and my updated GPS. Flying under Canadian rules is not a problem, there are some differences but not much. Go ahead and plan your flight, but be prepared to change your plans because one route can be weathered in and the other routes still flyable. The coast route is the most scenic and adventurous especially if you fly over the mountains to get there from inland. The Cassiar highway is more scenic than the Alaskan highway, but the Alaskan highway is more "historically interesting". But all three routes are doable, along with various combinations, though the coastal route is over water for at least some of the trip. You are going to have to fly over some water to get to Juneau, so you will be exposed to water anyway (unless you come in HIGH right over the mountain wilderness from the east, no road to follow and some of the MOST remote terrain I've ever seen). There is no road that connects Juneau to ANYWHERE. When you fly the coast you are usually flying over water but near land. This is true for the entire route. If you go to the coast count on getting weathered in for a day or two somewhere. Statistically July 4th is th clearest weather, certainly is the warment week of the year and has looong days. The trip is certainly doable. Get your aircraft in the best shape you can, buy the charts, update your GPS and go. It is a fantastic trip! |
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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 13:23:22 -0500, Matt Whiting
wrote: An 00 pellet would just make a brown bear really mad. That was my reaction, too. Personally, I'd probably be just as happy with my Super Blackhawk. I have one of those, too, that I've used for deer hunting, but I took a 12 ga. pump and slugs on my Alaska trips. Handguns are forbidden in Canada; but I'd have carried the shotgun in any case. A fellow I know hunts bears (successfully) here in PA with a .44, but our bears aren't grizzlies. Besides, he was a member of the USMC pistol team. (I wasn't.) you can get shot loads for the .44 Mag as well that are adequate for small game. I have no evidence, but I'd guess that's an extremely short-range weapon. vince norris |
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I'd recommend carrying some food and survival gear, though it is not mandatory.
Is that a recent change? A booklet I obtained from Transport Canada before my first trip to Alaska had a list of *required* survival gear. It included 10,000 calories per person, fishing gear, mosquito netting, sleeping bag, flares, and a number of other items. if you bring a gun, a shotgun makes the most sense and is the most politically correct. I've haven't been bothering IIRC, a gun is *required* in Alaska. Has that changed? My last trip there was about six years ago. Flight plans are pretty much mandatory in Canada. There is (or was) a loophole: As an alternative to a flight plan, you can "notify a reponsible adult" of your plans. On our trips we had several airplanes, so the pilot of one plane "notified" the pilot of another plane, etc. vince norris |
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The guides up there all carry 12ga slug guns.
Mike MU-2 "Colin W Kingsbury" wrote in message ink.net... wrote in message ups.com... Alaska regs no longer require you to carry a firearm, but they highly recommend it (as do I). I took a 12-gauge with slugs. Hmm, never hunted brown bear, but my gut instinct is that I'd go with buckshot in that use case. I'd much rather hit Yogi with one pellet of 00 than whizz a slug right past him. Maybe load a slug or two first and then 2-3 rounds of 00 and hope you never need them. If you're talking real survival you might want to carry a box of birdshot too to use for hunting. Hit anything smaller than a deer with a 12ga slug and there isn't going to be much meat left. -cwk. |
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"vincent p. norris" wrote in message ... I'd recommend carrying some food and survival gear, though it is not mandatory. Is that a recent change? A booklet I obtained from Transport Canada before my first trip to Alaska had a list of *required* survival gear. It included 10,000 calories per person, fishing gear, mosquito netting, sleeping bag, flares, and a number of other items. Such particulars are no doubt a good idea, but the regulations are not this specific. The regulations requi : 602.61 ... no person shall operate an aircraft over : land unless there is carried on board survival equipment, sufficient for : the survival on the ground of each person on board, given the : geographical area, the season of the year and anticipated seasonal : climatic variations, that provides the means for : (a) starting a fire; : (b) providing shelter; : (c) providing or purifying water; and : (d) visually signalling distress. There are of course reasonable requirements for flights over water as well. ... Flight plans are pretty much mandatory in Canada. There is (or was) a loophole: As an alternative to a flight plan, you can "notify a reponsible adult" of your plans. On our trips we had several airplanes, so the pilot of one plane "notified" the pilot of another plane, etc. Not a loophole. An alternative. The VFR alternative to a VFR Flight Plan is a Flight Itinerary. One or the other is required for any flight more than 25 nm from the departure aerodrome, except that a Flight *Plan* is required for flights between Canada and a foreign state. A flight *Itinerary* can be filed formally with FSS/tower etc., or with a responsible person. A responsible person is "an individual who has agreed with the person who has filed a flight itinerary to ensure that the following are notified in the manner prescribed in this Division, if the aircraft is overdue, namely, (a) an air traffic control unit, a flight service station or a community aerodrome radio station, or (b) a Rescue Co-ordination Centre." http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/Re...602.htm#602_73 |
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