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Subject: Gun, machine gun and/or cannon?
From: "The Enlightenment" Date: 8/22/2004 10:49 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Only 3 hits were required to brring down a 4 engined heavy bomber and even a P47 couldn't survive more than a hit or two. (which made the Me 109 so deady if it got to within 200m) http://www.luft46.com/armament/mk108.html During our training in WW II the number of hits to bring down any plane was a point of important study for us. Bringing down a heavy bomber with three hits regardless of where it was hit is in itself an unreasonable concept. Studies showed that an ME 109 would have to put almost 75 hits into a B-17 to bring it down. The most vulnerable enemy fighter was the Jap zero (after the JU 87) and it needed 12 hite to bring it down. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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![]() "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Gun, machine gun and/or cannon? From: "The Enlightenment" Date: 8/22/2004 10:49 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Only 3 hits were required to brring down a 4 engined heavy bomber and even a P47 couldn't survive more than a hit or two. (which made the Me 109 so deady if it got to within 200m) http://www.luft46.com/armament/mk108.html During our training in WW II the number of hits to bring down any plane was a point of important study for us. Bringing down a heavy bomber with three hits regardless of where it was hit is in itself an unreasonable concept. Studies showed that an ME 109 would have to put almost 75 hits into a B-17 to bring it down. The most vulnerable enemy fighter was the Jap zero (after the JU 87) and it needed 12 hite to bring it down. That kinda dependson what its hit with and where its hit doesnt it ! The German jet fighters carried a 30mm cannon with rather more stopping power than the .50 calibre machine guns carried by US aircraft. Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Subject: Gun, machine gun and/or cannon?
From: "Keith Willshaw" Date: 8/23/2004 7:44 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Gun, machine gun and/or cannon? From: "The Enlightenment" Date: 8/22/2004 10:49 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Only 3 hits were required to brring down a 4 engined heavy bomber and even a P47 couldn't survive more than a hit or two. (which made the Me 109 so deady if it got to within 200m) http://www.luft46.com/armament/mk108.html During our training in WW II the number of hits to bring down any plane was a point of important study for us. Bringing down a heavy bomber with three hits regardless of where it was hit is in itself an unreasonable concept. Studies showed that an ME 109 would have to put almost 75 hits into a B-17 to bring it down. The most vulnerable enemy fighter was the Jap zero (after the JU 87) and it needed 12 hite to bring it down. That kinda dependson what its hit with and where its hit doesnt it ! The German jet fighters carried a 30mm cannon with rather more stopping power than the .50 calibre machine guns carried by US aircraft. Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- Y'think maybe the guys doing the surveys of battle damage were aware of that? I'll bet they might have been. If you know it, I guess they may have known it as well. Y'think so? Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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caliber strictly less than 20 mm is machine gun above 20 mm, this is a gun Ctenos (reply w/o spam) a écrit dans le message : ... Is there a consistent basis for this designation in aircraft armament? |
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