Competition for Trade-A-Plane launched tonight

Trade-A-Plane (TAP) has some new competition I learned tonight.

If you own an airplane AND are a pilot, you will receive a (FREE)
subscription to a new buying guide, Aircraft Owner (AO).

I think the first Vol. went out tonight. 125,000 copies shipped.

Take that TAP.

http://www.aircraftowner.com/
(Website is new. Seller's ads are coming to the website - maybe. Don't know
for sure)

This all was announced at a volunteer meeting I was at tonight for something
else. Don't know if the launch of Aircraft Owner (AO) made AvWeb or
Aero-News Network yet, I wasn't looking.

Question I had: Take Jack Allison....please. He's a pilot, looking for a
plane. He won't get a FREE subscription because he's not already an owner.

Answer: For now Jack might pick up a copy at the FBO - 5,000 copies sent out
to FBO's.

Anyway, that's the business plan they're going with.

http://www.aircraftowner.com/pdfs/Ai...unches1.19.pdf

Vol 1 looked (glossy) nice - lots of ads, one page of planes, same size as
TAP - just not as thick :-)

My one pet peev is ads that don't quote a price. I like publications that
insist on prices included with each ad - cars, boats, planes, whatever. This
publication doesn't do that as of now. Neither does TAP. Oh well.

Anyway, it's FREE if you own a plane AND are a pilot. Not sure if they're
open to (FREE) subscription requests yet - you know, from pilots who want
planes. g

I think this venture might work out for Greg Herrick, the owner of Golden
Wings Museum - he's a smart guy, with a good business head on his shoulders,
and many succesful venturs behind him - ZEOS computers for one. 2003
National Air Tour for another.

BTW, He's vowing 5 Tri-Motors from Golden Wings at OSH this year - wonder if
he's got some Aircraft Owner (AO) roll-out promotion in mind? Hmm.

Oh, the museum's 6th Tri-Motor just trucked in from Alaska this week. Ford -
B model. It's a mess, but will (hopefully) soon be restored to flying
condition.


Montblack
After all that, I hope I make the darn subscription list!
Mmm....FREE :-)

"Montblack" wrote in message
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My one pet peev is ads that don't quote a price. Montblack

I figure if someone doesn't post a price .. there's a reason. It's
way over priced. The last thing I'm going to do is call for
prices. I just pass over them.

"OtisWinslow" wrote in message
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"Montblack" wrote in message
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My one pet peev is ads that don't quote a price. Montblack

I figure if someone doesn't post a price .. there's a reason. It's
way over priced. The last thing I'm going to do is call for
prices. I just pass over them.

Me too! I see it as a sign that the seller is either not ready to sell, or
doesn't really value time.

OtisWinslow wrote:


"Montblack" wrote in message
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My one pet peev is ads that don't quote a price. Montblack

I figure if someone doesn't post a price .. there's a reason. It's
way over priced. The last thing I'm going to do is call for
prices. I just pass over them.


I don't have to ask, I KNOW I can't afford it! ;-)
John

I figure if someone doesn't post a price .. there's a reason. It's
way over priced. The last thing I'm going to do is call for
prices. I just pass over them.

Agreed. That whole "if you have to ask you can't afford it" mentality just
****es me off.
--
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Iowa City, IA
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"Your Aviation Destination"

I always feel like if I have to ask for the price on something I am dealing
with a shady used car salesman. So I do not ask, and whomever loses a
potential customer.

Patrick

"Montblack" writes:

My one pet peev is ads that don't quote a price.

Here's a useful rule-of-thumb for that: If you have to ask, you can't
afford it. :-)
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OtisWinslow wrote:
"Montblack" wrote in message
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My one pet peev is ads that don't quote a price. Montblack


I figure if someone doesn't post a price .. there's a reason. It's
way over priced. The last thing I'm going to do is call for
prices. I just pass over them.

That's interesting. I figure the prices in the ads are pretty useless. I doubt
that many airplanes go for the listed prices, anyway. By the time an airplane
gets in TAP, it's already been on the local market for a while and didn't sell
in the local market, possibly because it's overpriced.

Doesn't apply to specialty aircraft that may not have a local market, but a
Cherokee or a 172 or similar will be sold locally if it's priced right.

..... but I don't know, I've never bought or sold from a TAP ad.

DGB

from a business 101 standpoint, the buyer should never be the first one
to quote a price offer. that's what people mean when they say "i'm not
going to negotiate with myself." the quoted price is just a starting
point but it is the sellers starting point, not necessarily the buyers
and unless you're dealing with an unwilling seller, that's the way it
should be.

and, as a seller, i would have the greatest effection for the person
who believes that if you have to ask, you can't afford it. i'll even
throw in my satisfaction guranteed money back offer. (if i'm not
TOTALLY SATISFIED with your money; i'll give it back! promise.)

dan

What does one have to do with the other?

"David Dyer-Bennet" wrote in message
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If you have to ask, you can't afford it. :-)