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Old September 27th 04, 12:13 PM
Roger Long
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Default Great quote

From Avweb's Kevin Garrison in this week's column:

"Using the B-52 as our main bomber is the same thing -- in terms of years --
as using a three-masted schooner to battle the Japanese fleet in World War
II."

If you do the math, it's true. Amazing.

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Old September 27th 04, 02:38 PM
Jay Honeck
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If you do the math, it's true. Amazing.

That IS amazing.

This truly illustrates how evolutionary (rather than revolutionary) aircraft
design has become. It also highlights America's unprecedented world
dominance. Imagine: world competition is so inconsequential that the United
States can rule the skies while flying the equivalent of a 3-masted
schooner...

Of course, look at the F-15 Eagle, which was developed 32 years ago.

In World War II, that would have been like going to war in a Wright Model B
Flyer!
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old September 27th 04, 05:06 PM
C J Campbell
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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If you do the math, it's true. Amazing.


That IS amazing.

This truly illustrates how evolutionary (rather than revolutionary)

aircraft
design has become. It also highlights America's unprecedented world
dominance. Imagine: world competition is so inconsequential that the

United
States can rule the skies while flying the equivalent of a 3-masted
schooner...

Of course, look at the F-15 Eagle, which was developed 32 years ago.

In World War II, that would have been like going to war in a Wright Model

B
Flyer!


According to that issue of AVweb, the Army wants to use blimps.

Ha! Not only can we beat 'em with one hand tied behind our back, but we can
do it with both hands and feet tied and blindfolded, too!


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Old September 27th 04, 05:38 PM
William W. Plummer
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C J Campbell wrote:

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:TJU5d.60013$wV.52840@attbi_s54...

If you do the math, it's true. Amazing.


That IS amazing.

This truly illustrates how evolutionary (rather than revolutionary)


aircraft

design has become. It also highlights America's unprecedented world
dominance. Imagine: world competition is so inconsequential that the


United

States can rule the skies while flying the equivalent of a 3-masted
schooner...

Of course, look at the F-15 Eagle, which was developed 32 years ago.

In World War II, that would have been like going to war in a Wright Model


B

Flyer!



According to that issue of AVweb, the Army wants to use blimps.

Ha! Not only can we beat 'em with one hand tied behind our back, but we can
do it with both hands and feet tied and blindfolded, too!


Hold it. Are you knocking blimps (air ships)? They can lift heavy
loads such as a tank and delive it right to the front. They are
reasonable cool (IR-wise) and have a low radar crossection. They can
take many shots and still fly. And, they are cheap! And pilot training
is minimal because, although they typically have more than one engine, a
multi engine ticket isn't required because the engines are not involved
in producing lift.
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Old September 27th 04, 06:19 PM
C J Campbell
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"William W. Plummer" wrote in message
news:kmX5d.268948$mD.191874@attbi_s02...
C J Campbell wrote:

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:TJU5d.60013$wV.52840@attbi_s54...

If you do the math, it's true. Amazing.

That IS amazing.

This truly illustrates how evolutionary (rather than revolutionary)


aircraft

design has become. It also highlights America's unprecedented world
dominance. Imagine: world competition is so inconsequential that the


United

States can rule the skies while flying the equivalent of a 3-masted
schooner...

Of course, look at the F-15 Eagle, which was developed 32 years ago.

In World War II, that would have been like going to war in a Wright

Model

B

Flyer!



According to that issue of AVweb, the Army wants to use blimps.

Ha! Not only can we beat 'em with one hand tied behind our back, but we

can
do it with both hands and feet tied and blindfolded, too!


Hold it. Are you knocking blimps (air ships)?


Blast it, forgot the smiley.


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Old September 27th 04, 08:33 PM
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("C J Campbell" wrote)
Ha! Not only can we beat 'em with one hand tied behind our back, but we

can
do it with both hands and feet tied and blindfolded, too!



Blindfold is made in China - along with EVERYTHING else at Wal-Mart, Target,
K-Mart, NAPA Auto Parts, etc, etc, etc.

I'm not sure we've beat'em. I think the game has changed.

Just as the US took the long view (a.k.a. The Cold War) in dealing with the
former Soviet Union, I think China is taking the long view in dealing,
economically, with the US.

As we discovered post WWI - with economic clout, comes world power.

Heck, The Dutch, with their economic advantage - great ships, were a world
power at one time!!!

Yes, we've got B-52's, but the Chinese have an unlimited peasant labor
force. The game is world power, who's got the better team on the field?


Arthur: Look, you stupid *******. You've got no arms left!
Black Knight: Yes I have.

Arthur: Look!
Black Knight: Just a flesh wound!

ARTHUR: Now stand aside, worthy adversary.
BLACK KNIGHT: 'Tis but a scratch.

ARTHUR: A scratch? Your arm's off!
BLACK KNIGHT: No, it isn't.

(...many limbs later)

ARTHUR: What are you going to do, bleed on me?
BLACK KNIGHT: I'm invincible!

ARTHUR: You're a looney.
BLACK KNIGHT: The Black Knight always triumphs! Have at you! Come on, then.

[whop]
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's last leg off]

BLACK KNIGHT: Oh? All right, we'll call it a draw.


Montblack


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Old September 28th 04, 02:48 AM
bryan chaisone
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I love Monty Python, thanks for the memory.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

P.S. Let's not forget that we bombed the sh*t out of Vietnam
(actually we bombed Laos) with B52s and other jets and still did not
win. It takes more than a bigger gun to win a fight. Best bet is not
to get into a fight, or if you do, destroy your enemy to the last man
with no mercy, rewrite history to hide the fact that that particular
enemy ever existed and you might have a chance of not getting a
retaliation from sympathizers.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaison

"Montblack" wrote in message ...
("C J Campbell" wrote)
Ha! Not only can we beat 'em with one hand tied behind our back, but we

can
do it with both hands and feet tied and blindfolded, too!



Blindfold is made in China - along with EVERYTHING else at Wal-Mart, Target,
K-Mart, NAPA Auto Parts, etc, etc, etc.

I'm not sure we've beat'em. I think the game has changed.

Just as the US took the long view (a.k.a. The Cold War) in dealing with the
former Soviet Union, I think China is taking the long view in dealing,
economically, with the US.

As we discovered post WWI - with economic clout, comes world power.

Heck, The Dutch, with their economic advantage - great ships, were a world
power at one time!!!

Yes, we've got B-52's, but the Chinese have an unlimited peasant labor
force. The game is world power, who's got the better team on the field?


Arthur: Look, you stupid *******. You've got no arms left!
Black Knight: Yes I have.

Arthur: Look!
Black Knight: Just a flesh wound!

ARTHUR: Now stand aside, worthy adversary.
BLACK KNIGHT: 'Tis but a scratch.

ARTHUR: A scratch? Your arm's off!
BLACK KNIGHT: No, it isn't.

(...many limbs later)

ARTHUR: What are you going to do, bleed on me?
BLACK KNIGHT: I'm invincible!

ARTHUR: You're a looney.
BLACK KNIGHT: The Black Knight always triumphs! Have at you! Come on, then.

[whop]
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's last leg off]

BLACK KNIGHT: Oh? All right, we'll call it a draw.


Montblack

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Old September 28th 04, 04:43 AM
Jay Honeck
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P.S. Let's not forget that we bombed the sh*t out of Vietnam
(actually we bombed Laos) with B52s and other jets and still did not
win.


Only due to the utmost restraint.

But that's another thread!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old September 28th 04, 05:38 AM
Jack Allison
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(Mont)Black Knight:

Thanks for that blast from the past...Monty Python was great, once you
figured out it was funny :-)
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Old September 28th 04, 06:17 AM
Montblack
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("Jack Allison" wrote)
Thanks for that blast from the past...Monty Python was great, once you
figured out it was funny :-)



I was shooting for allegory, but I'll take funny :-)

Montblack


 




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