------------- And now for something completely different... (Read the Zero file) - File 1 of 1 - B-52_Stratofortress.rar (000/248)

Lee wrote in
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"Morgans" wrote in news:vxDGl.53906
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"Mitchell Holman" wrote

There may be a reason to depart from the file formats
that have been used here for decades but danged if I can
figure out what it is.

Amen, brother!

I gave up. The B-52 is not all that interesting to me, anyway.


You gave up even after I left you a personal
note and download? Maybe MSOE hid the post
from you since as a rule, it doesn't like exe
files, too scary for it to handle...

Anyway that little program is so simple to
figure out... hell, even I fingered it out.

No one is trying to change anything in here
or how it is done. But the fact remains that
the computer world is changing every day and
there are newer and better ways of getting
information to you. Everyone is missing out on
a lot of stuff by not trying something out
once in a while.

The little things one learns here and there will
help expand their experiences on the net.

Inevitably as the outside world changes, there
will be some of it peeking in here occasionally.
That which one doesn't understand, they either
adapt and overcome or run and hide.

Not trying to sound preachy, but honestly, you
should dump MSOE as your newsreader.


I don't use MSOE as my newsreader and I still
haven't heard a reason why images cannot be posted
in the standard jpeg format that has been used here
for decades.

Change is nice when there is an advantage.

What is the advantage to rar files?

"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
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I don't use MSOE as my newsreader and I still
haven't heard a reason why images cannot be posted
in the standard jpeg format that has been used here
for decades.

Change is nice when there is an advantage.

What is the advantage to rar files?




I _do_ use OE and now Windows Mail and I didn't have any problems. I
downloaded all the parts - I use a 3rd party usenet host that actually had
all the parts, combining them is easier than it sounds and Winzip decoded
the rar files for me.

I like OE/WM, it does all that I need. The closest I've found for what I
want is Thunderbird, the worst is Opera and I've tried Agent as well as a
couple of others.

I can understand why Lee created the pdf file, it's a book, not just a
collection of pictures. Pdf files were created for online documents,
books, brochures etc, so it makes sense. Reading the B-52 book as 248
jpegs would be a nightmare, I'd have put them into a pdf here. If you
need the pictures, they're easy enough to extract.

I'm not getting into the yEnc debate - that just seems to generate more heat
than light.


Damn fine piece of scanning BTW, I can never get all the pages straight on
the platen, without a _lot_ of work. Maybe it's the document feeder ....


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Cheers

Dave Kearton

"Dave Kearton" wrote in
:

"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
. 130...


I don't use MSOE as my newsreader and I still
haven't heard a reason why images cannot be posted
in the standard jpeg format that has been used here
for decades.

Change is nice when there is an advantage.

What is the advantage to rar files?




I _do_ use OE and now Windows Mail and I didn't have any problems.
I downloaded all the parts - I use a 3rd party usenet host that
actually had all the parts, combining them is easier than it sounds
and Winzip decoded the rar files for me.

I like OE/WM, it does all that I need. The closest I've found for
what I want is Thunderbird, the worst is Opera and I've tried Agent as
well as a couple of others.

I can understand why Lee created the pdf file, it's a book, not just a
collection of pictures. Pdf files were created for online
documents, books, brochures etc, so it makes sense. Reading the
B-52 book as 248 jpegs would be a nightmare, I'd have put them into a
pdf here. If you need the pictures, they're easy enough to
extract.

I'm not getting into the yEnc debate - that just seems to generate
more heat than light.


Damn fine piece of scanning BTW, I can never get all the pages
straight on the platen, without a _lot_ of work. Maybe it's the
document feeder ....




Thanks Dave. Very Much in fact.

The two nice comments in a row from you made
it worth the effort.

Glad you enjoyed the book. I did.

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:20:47 -0400, hielan' laddie wrote:

I also want to keep the old books, and to scan them properly I have to
cut pages out and feed them into an ADF. This destroys the book, so I
have to have two books, one to keep and one to scan. This is expensive,

OUCH! About a year ago, I came across a flatbed, "manual-feed" book
scanner that cost about $250 US. The scan window extended as much as
technically possible (considering cost) to the edge of the machine.
You'd place the book's "gutter" (binding side of a page) at the edge and
scan away. True, no auto doc. feeder, but far better than un-binding.

Do Google on [book scanner], and probably have a look at the suggested
search strings before you commit the phrase and start searching.

The third photo here shows one such scanner:
http://www.plustek.com/product/book3600.asp
There are a couple of distressing, glaring misspellings on that page, as
well, fwiw.

It's discounted at the first of the three dealers; that's a company I've
done business with, and can highly recommend. Cost is less than that of
many netbook computers.

As well, it's not a major job to make a copy stand for a modern digital
camera, and the image resolution isn't exactly awful. Do watch for moire
patterns on halftone images, though. Straight-line white LED arrays are
almost affordable...

I apologize if somebody else has also offered this info. The idea of
unbinding pains me, and I felt I had to post soon, although it's not all
that urgent.

Good luck, and best regards! HTH.

nb
who is not Estonian, but nevertheless
surely considers them to be good people.
("Eraklik" means "recluse", afaik.)

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:17:54 +0000, Lee wrote:

you should dump MSOE as your newsreader. There are a number of excellent
ones out there. Some are free. All you have to do is install, put in
your news server's address and the port # they use and you are off to
the real races.

Sorry to chime in, here, but using OE as a newsreader makes me cringe. In
fact, just the thought of using OE, period, makes me cringe. Thunderbird
for e-mail, anyone?

I heartily agree with the rest of what Lee said. When the history of
computers is written maybe 100 or 150 years from now, the present will be
a period of rapid development. (But, will they ever settle down? )

Otoh, one can't lay too much blame -- people buy computers, yet often
don't end up knowing much about how to use them -- as if they were to buy
a car (say, back in 1910 or so) and didn't know, or learn, that it can
move backwards under its own power. Any computer user today, imho, is an
amateur technician, if not a pro.

For a newsreader, Forté Agent is one that's somewhat idiosyncratic (or
was!), but has been one of those that has stood the test of time.

I've recently resumed reading and occasionally posting to USENET; for
now, I have only openSUSE Linux (no MS Windows), and the newsreader
called Pan works really well, so far. Somebody attached a PDF file, e-
mail style, to a message and posted it to thus newsgroup, and I would
have had to do geek stuff (Base 64 decode) to get at the file.

While feet are on the soapbox, PDFs look well set to be the document
format of choice for years to come. If startup of the Acrobat Reader
is a pain, try the free Foxit Reader.

PAR is "Parity Archive"; Wikipedia has a decent article about it. It's a
way of letting a downloader fix corrupted files, for one. Unfortunately,
nobody seems to have had much interest in writing software for PAR2
(improved version) to run on Linux/Unix.

Regards, and hth,

nb

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:51:33 -0400, hielan' laddie wrote:

Get Forte Free Agent on Windows or MT-NewsWatcher on Mac. Both are free.
Both are real newsreaders. MSOE is not a real newsreader.

For Linux, Pan is working well, although it's still being developed; I'm
currently using Version 0.132. In general, it works like Forté [Free]
Agent.

Apologies for modest redundancy, but it seemed appropriate.

Regards,

nb