Why GA is Dying

Crash Lander wrote:
You are easily annoyed.
Crash Lander

And you're an child.

Hey, give up your rights! What do I care?

Oh, wait, I care because if the sheep keep doing it, sooner or later we
end up with none.

Plonk.

I think the cup is way in the hell overdesigned {;-)

Jim



If you must continue to think that your cup is half empty, that is up to
you. My cup is half full.

That would be "You're A child" but this is not an English lesson.
I find it funny how people can't engage in a little light discussion without
having to "plonk" someone just because their opinions differ.

You think I'm giving up my rights. Your opinion.
If you must continue to think that your cup is half empty, that is up to
you. My cup is half full.
Good luck to you.
Crash Lander

--
I'm not always right,
But I'm never wrong!
"Emily" wrote in message
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Crash Lander wrote:
You are easily annoyed.
Crash Lander

And you're an child.

Hey, give up your rights! What do I care?

Oh, wait, I care because if the sheep keep doing it, sooner or later we
end up with none.

Plonk.

"Crash Lander" wrote in message
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Hi Dudley!
This is fun innit! :-)

The funny thing is that you guys and girls that are complaining about
unnecessary security measures actually actively engage in them every day!
For example. You lock your doors and windows at night. Now, chances are,
you'll never get broken into and robbed, but you lock up anyway! Why? If
someone wants to get in, do you really think a little window lock or a
deadbolt on a door will stop them?
I suppose you refuse to show your passport when you go overseas, because
it's none of their buisness who you are or what you're planning on doing
in that other country? Of course you don't! How about a little consistency
in your arguments people!
Crash Lander

You have to admit Crash........it beats mowin the lawn :-)))))))))))))))
Dudley

By Engineers! LOL!
I think you may be right there Jim! :-)
Crash Lander

--
I'm not always right,
But I'm never wrong!
"RST Engineering" wrote in message
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I think the cup is way in the hell overdesigned {;-)

Jim



If you must continue to think that your cup is half empty, that is up to
you. My cup is half full.

"Crash Lander" wrote in message
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Hi Dudley!
This is fun innit! :-)

The funny thing is that you guys and girls that are complaining about
unnecessary security measures actually actively engage in them every day!
For example. You lock your doors and windows at night. Now, chances are,
you'll never get broken into and robbed, but you lock up anyway! Why? If
someone wants to get in, do you really think a little window lock or a
deadbolt on a door will stop them?

The difference is that I choose to lock my doors (or not). Nobody makes me
follow their idea of security measures.

I suppose you refuse to show your passport when you go overseas, because
it's none of their buisness who you are or what you're planning on doing
in that other country? Of course you don't! How about a little consistency
in your arguments people!
Crash Lander

Apples and oranges. Passports are flagged, etc and there are real time
systems to address people with the wrong name or number on their passport.

At my local airport, they want to take down your name if you're taking
pictures. Let's say you produce an ID for the 18 year old who runs the fuel
pump. Is it fake? He can't tell. Is he gonna run the name through the FBI
database? Naah. Most likely, he's not even going to write it down, and
even if he does, the list of names will go in the dead letter file.

The whole thing is/was pointless and has no impact other than to hassle some
kid with a camera.

KB

Kyle Boatright wrote:

Apples and oranges. Passports are flagged, etc and there are real time
systems to address people with the wrong name or number on their passport.

Not to mention there's a law that you must show a passport. There's not
law about showing ID at a small airport if you're just hanging around.
Yes, the current regime is a problem, but so are people making up
authority that they just don't have.

Hi Kyle!
In this case, I agree it's possible it may not have been necessary, as the
kid with the camera was clearly talking to you and was acting with your
permission, but this discussion has developed past your original incident.
Now we have posters going on about having the right to refuse to produce ID
and explain why they are in a certain place if they are citizens, and not
foreigners and aren't doing anything suspicious etc. Going to another
country is not suspicious, however, each and every person is required to
produce a passport, and explain their reasons for entering that country. I
don't see them being so high and mighty and enforcing their 'rights' in that
circumstance.
As I said, the incident you posted about may have had an un-necessary
outcome, but what actual damage did it do? If it scared the young lad away
from learning to fly, then I'd suggest he is pretty thin skinned, and not at
all dedicated to his implied interest in aviation.
Crash Lander

--
I'm not always right,
But I'm never wrong!
"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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"Crash Lander" wrote in message
...
Hi Dudley!
This is fun innit! :-)

The funny thing is that you guys and girls that are complaining about
unnecessary security measures actually actively engage in them every day!
For example. You lock your doors and windows at night. Now, chances are,
you'll never get broken into and robbed, but you lock up anyway! Why? If
someone wants to get in, do you really think a little window lock or a
deadbolt on a door will stop them?

The difference is that I choose to lock my doors (or not). Nobody makes
me follow their idea of security measures.

I suppose you refuse to show your passport when you go overseas, because
it's none of their buisness who you are or what you're planning on doing
in that other country? Of course you don't! How about a little
consistency in your arguments people!
Crash Lander

Apples and oranges. Passports are flagged, etc and there are real time
systems to address people with the wrong name or number on their passport.

At my local airport, they want to take down your name if you're taking
pictures. Let's say you produce an ID for the 18 year old who runs the
fuel pump. Is it fake? He can't tell. Is he gonna run the name through
the FBI database? Naah. Most likely, he's not even going to write it
down, and even if he does, the list of names will go in the dead letter
file.

The whole thing is/was pointless and has no impact other than to hassle
some kid with a camera.

KB

True Emily, but is there not a law that says you must produce ID to a Police
Officer if requested to do so? A police Officer must show you his ID if you
ask him to, so surely it works the other way too?
Whilst a Security Guard is not a Police Officer, and I suspect this is the
point where a lot of the comments are coming from, they are generally all
police cleared and given limited 'policing' abilities and permissions, as
the actual Police Department cannot be everywhere at the same time.
Crash Lander

--
I'm not always right,
But I'm never wrong!
"Emily" wrote in message
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Kyle Boatright wrote:

Apples and oranges. Passports are flagged, etc and there are real time
systems to address people with the wrong name or number on their
passport.

Not to mention there's a law that you must show a passport. There's not
law about showing ID at a small airport if you're just hanging around.
Yes, the current regime is a problem, but so are people making up
authority that they just don't have.

PS: Not expecting a reply as I've apparently been 'plonked'!
Crash Lander

--
I'm not always right,
But I'm never wrong!
"Crash Lander" wrote in message
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True Emily, but is there not a law that says you must produce ID to a
Police Officer if requested to do so? A police Officer must show you his
ID if you ask him to, so surely it works the other way too?
Whilst a Security Guard is not a Police Officer, and I suspect this is the
point where a lot of the comments are coming from, they are generally all
police cleared and given limited 'policing' abilities and permissions, as
the actual Police Department cannot be everywhere at the same time.
Crash Lander

--
I'm not always right,
But I'm never wrong!
"Emily" wrote in message
. ..
Kyle Boatright wrote:

Apples and oranges. Passports are flagged, etc and there are real time
systems to address people with the wrong name or number on their
passport.

Not to mention there's a law that you must show a passport. There's not
law about showing ID at a small airport if you're just hanging around.
Yes, the current regime is a problem, but so are people making up
authority that they just don't have.