2 aircraft cleared onto the same runway at the same time

This was a new one for me.

I was IFR this afternoon out of HPN for short practice flight. I was in
sequence number two at the runway waiting for departure. As the tower
controller cleared the Cessna in front of me to position and hold, he
asked him his direction of flight. The Cessna pilot responded
"Northbound". The controller then instructed the Cessna to position 50
feet north on Rwy 34, and then he cleared me to position and hold
behind the Cessna. The Cessna was VFR. I questioned the clearance,
reminding him that there was an airplane on the runway in front of me.
He told me to position and hold behind the traffic. As I taxiied into
position, he cleared the Cessna for takeoff and as soon as the Cessna
broke ground he cleared me for takeoff. I was using a DP which includes
a turn to the left. The Cessna was instructed to turn out to the right.

I've been flying out of HPN since 1992 and I have never seen or heard
of anything like this being done there before, ever.

Did I miss something??

"Tom Fleischman" k wrote in
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news:250320051938408267%bodhijunkoneeightyeightjun ...
This was a new one for me.

I was IFR this afternoon out of HPN for short practice flight. I was in
sequence number two at the runway waiting for departure. As the tower
controller cleared the Cessna in front of me to position and hold, he
asked him his direction of flight. The Cessna pilot responded
"Northbound". The controller then instructed the Cessna to position 50
feet north on Rwy 34, and then he cleared me to position and hold
behind the Cessna. The Cessna was VFR. I questioned the clearance,
reminding him that there was an airplane on the runway in front of me.
He told me to position and hold behind the traffic. As I taxiied into
position, he cleared the Cessna for takeoff and as soon as the Cessna
broke ground he cleared me for takeoff. I was using a DP which includes
a turn to the left. The Cessna was instructed to turn out to the right.

I've been flying out of HPN since 1992 and I have never seen or heard
of anything like this being done there before, ever.

Did I miss something??

Never been to OSH eh? You get lined up six at a time.

Dave Stadt wrote:
"Tom Fleischman" k wrote in
message
news:250320051938408267%bodhijunkoneeightyeightjun ...

This was a new one for me.

I was IFR this afternoon out of HPN for short practice flight. I was in
sequence number two at the runway waiting for departure. As the tower
controller cleared the Cessna in front of me to position and hold, he
asked him his direction of flight. The Cessna pilot responded
"Northbound". The controller then instructed the Cessna to position 50
feet north on Rwy 34, and then he cleared me to position and hold
behind the Cessna. The Cessna was VFR. I questioned the clearance,
reminding him that there was an airplane on the runway in front of me.
He told me to position and hold behind the traffic. As I taxiied into
position, he cleared the Cessna for takeoff and as soon as the Cessna
broke ground he cleared me for takeoff. I was using a DP which includes
a turn to the left. The Cessna was instructed to turn out to the right.

I've been flying out of HPN since 1992 and I have never seen or heard
of anything like this being done there before, ever.

Did I miss something??


Never been to OSH eh? You get lined up six at a time.



True, and you get nearly a formation take-off.

Matt

Dave Stadt wrote:
Never been to OSH eh? You get lined up six at a time.

My thought exactly. Perhaps the tower controller was getting prepped
for this year :-)



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Jack Allison wrote:

Dave Stadt wrote:

Never been to OSH eh? You get lined up six at a time.


My thought exactly. Perhaps the tower controller was getting prepped
for this year :-)

Not likely as he's not eligible for OSH.

("Newps" wrote)
My thought exactly. Perhaps the tower controller was getting prepped
for this year :-)

Not likely as he's not eligible for OSH.


Who is? What are the requirements?


Montblack

Montblack wrote:
("Newps" wrote)

My thought exactly. Perhaps the tower controller was getting prepped
for this year :-)


Not likely as he's not eligible for OSH.



Who is? What are the requirements?

Anybody from the Great Lakes region and checked out at your facility.

"Dave Stadt" wrote
Never been to OSH eh? You get lined up six at a time.

I have never seen that. They do pull someone onto the runway in pairs, as
soon as the departing plane releases brakes. They line you up on left and
right sides of the runway, and alternate departing left, then right.

This was on 18; I don't what they do with the IFR departures on 9/27.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Dave Stadt" wrote
Never been to OSH eh? You get lined up six at a time.

I have never seen that. They do pull someone onto the runway in pairs, as
soon as the departing plane releases brakes. They line you up on left and
right sides of the runway, and alternate departing left, then right.

This was on 18; I don't what they do with the IFR departures on 9/27.
--
Jim in NC


You must never have left at high volume departure times. They will get at
least 6 lined up on 18 right, 2 wide and three deep. There will also be
departures on 18 left.

"Dave Stadt" wrote

You must never have left at high volume departure times. They will get at
least 6 lined up on 18 right, 2 wide and three deep. There will also be
departures on 18 left.

I have been out there during "the push". I don't recall more than 2 wide
and one deep, with one just breaking ground. I guess that could be due to
the difference in individual controller's preferences, also. It could be
CRS, too! g
--
Jim in NC