ASK21 vs G103

(solo89) wrote in message . com...
In a few weeks I'll take my check ride in an ASK21. All of my training
to date has been in a G103.

The examiner told me the ASK is a lot like the Grob just better.

any advice?

I'm a little concerned about taking my check ride in a glider I've
never seen, but not overly concerned. The performance looks pretty
similar and they're both fixed gear ships. So I'm thinkin' "no big
deal".

Doug

Other posters have told you there isn't much difference and it won't
be a problem. They are probably all experienced pilots with many
types flown. I expect that you are not.

Don't take a check ride in a glider you have never flown. Get at least
3 takeoffs and landings in it to give yourself a fair chance on the
checkride.


Andy

Guy Byars wrote:

But it is useful to have that so you can set the trim correctly before
takeoff.

Not really. We operate two ASK 21, and frankly, I don't even know
whether they have that indicator or not, although I've learnt to fly in
them! If you know the ASK, then you know the correct position of the
trim lever. If you don't know the ASK, then move the lever full forward
and full backward, and then you know where the middle position is. This
is good enough for takeoff, and once you're airborne, you'll have to
retrim anyway.

Stefan

chances are.. if you know the DE or he knows you..

the DE will not be concerned about the differences.. but may evaluate
(though it is not part of the PTS) how quickly you adapt to the ASK-21... if
you learned in a Grob.. then the ASK will be easier..

the DE will be concentrating on your general flying.. procedures and
decision making..

BT

"solo89" wrote in message
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Thanks to all for the input.

I've been flying the G103 Twin II Acro. (I guess the Acro is a wasted
distinction these days.) It does indeed sound very similar to the
ASK21.

I'm glad to hear the rudder and ailerons are better balanced. I do
sometimes have trouble with my coordination in the 103.

Just a few more flights and lots of book time between me and the test.

Doug

In a few weeks I'll take my check ride in an ASK21. All of my training
to date has been in a G103.

any advice?

Other posters have told you there isn't much difference and it won't
be a problem. They are probably all experienced pilots with many
types flown. I expect that you are not.

Don't take a check ride in a glider you have never flown. Get at least
3 takeoffs and landings in it to give yourself a fair chance on the
checkride.

Checkrides have very little to do with gliders, and everything
to do with the pilot. If flying a different glider makes you even
the slightest bit nervous, yeah, show up an hour early and get a
pattern tow at least.

Heck, I've personally never flown ANY two place aircraft
without flying it at least once with someone who has flown THAT
EXACT aircraft before. And I've hired test pilots three times to
demonstrate and fly single seaters before I flew them (I've flown
exactly three single-seat aircraft).

It only takes one pull of the wrong knob to end up surprised, still on
tow, but without a canopy...

How about asking the DPE? There is no law against his flying with
you for an hour of dual before the checkride. He's not the
one who signed you off, so there'd be no conflict. $75 for an hour
with a super experienced instructor right before your checkride?
Sounds like a good deal to me! If I were an examiner, I'd
be impressed by a cautious and methodical applicant...