"We're with the FAA"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ps.com...
If you have nothing to hide & aircraft is in good condition then you
should
not worry about the ramp checks!

That really says it all. It's a complete non-event, taking less than 2
minutes -- IF you've actually got your ducks in a row. (Well, this is
a data-point of ONE ramp check in 12 years of flying. YMMV.)

If not, your plane becomes a giant paper-weight, until you produce the
required documents. When we were checked, the Illinois pilot in the
Grumman Tiger ahead of us found that out the hard way.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Jay, 100% correct it is a non event and did you get the message that I
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to e-mail it to me and I will place it on the site for ya!

Anybody with a gun, for starters.




Matt Barrow wrote:

"Newps" wrote in message
. ..


Denny wrote:


As a matter of principle I will not be ramp checked...

You are required to show license and medical to any authority, not just
the FAA.


I'm a bit hung over; what authority outside the FAA might that be? (Yes,
Customs is one).

In article ,
"Matt Barrow" wrote:



I'm a bit hung over; what authority outside the FAA might that be? (Yes,
Customs is one).

Law enforcement officers. In fact some states have local laws requiring
a pilot to show his certificate to LE officers.

In article .com,
"houstondan" wrote:

ok, all that said, given the great caption this thread has; who has
had a ramp check and what was it like????????????


I was ramped at Columbia, SC (Ownes field?) while flying the B-24. The
inspector thought she had caught me doing a no-no hauling passengers
in an experimental a/c outside our letter authorizing us to operate,
however I had made a stop to pickup pax at a point we were authorized
from...yeah I know, confused me also. G It was a short conversation
and of no consequence, even when I found that some paperwork was out of
date. (another crew person had swapped an out of date WB for the current
one...embarrasing but I was able to fix the problem on the spot so no
foul)

Although I kind of felt like I was being hunted (the inpectors were
waiting for us to arrive..it was about 1730 on a Friday evening...we
were the last aircraft to arrive) it wasn't a big deal overall.

What is the principle?


"Denny" wrote in message
oups.com...
As a matter of principle I will not be ramp checked...

denny

Dale wrote:

In article ,
"Matt Barrow" wrote:



I'm a bit hung over; what authority outside the FAA might that be? (Yes,
Customs is one).


Law enforcement officers. In fact some states have local laws requiring
a pilot to show his certificate to LE officers.

Which is redundant and unecessary.

Newps wrote:
In fact some states have local laws
requiring a pilot to show his certificate to LE officers.

Which is redundant and unnecessary.

Why? Do you mean they don't need a state law stating they can
require showing the certificate? Can they do anything they want,
law on the books or not?

Fred F.

TxSrv wrote:
Newps wrote:

In fact some states have local laws

requiring a pilot to show his certificate to LE officers.


Which is redundant and unnecessary.


Why? Do you mean they don't need a state law stating they can require
showing the certificate?


It's already a federal law, no state law necessary.

B A R R Y wrote:
Do you mean they don't need a state law stating they can
require showing the certificate?

The FAR's already state we need to show our certificates to law
enforcement. That's state law, local ordinance, or not.

An FAR is just an administrative regulation of the fed gov't.
Doesn't give state LEO's any police powers.

Fred F.

Newps wrote:

Why? Do you mean they don't need a state law stating they can require
showing the certificate?

It's already a federal law, no state law necessary.

It's only an administrative regulation -- stating "upon request,"
implying the request has to be lawful under state law. Tell the
cop, "I don't have one to show you." Absent state law (all have
such a law), then the cop can't do anything to prevent you from
operating an aircraft.

Fred F.