We Are All Spaniards

The terrorists are cultivating their hero image among their constituency
to broaden their political base; they couldn't care less what the
infidels think, as long as they are afraid.

An excellent, well-stated point.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Spoken like an innkeeper! But we're talking about an infestation
with nests worldwide, not just in our kitchen. Your insect metaphor is
not very comforting when one considers the struggle against fire ants in
the U. S.

Dan, we'll never defeat them all -- anymore than we can wipe out cockroaches
or fire ants.

But we can keep 'em out of our homes.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

They could have caved and supported Hussein like the cowardly French and
Germans.

to say it direct: YOU ARE AN IGNORANT IDIOT.
stick a finger up your ass and whistle.

Truth hurts, doesn't it, Martin?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

We are all Spaniards today.

Well, Jay -- your post succeeded in one thing. It brought all the usual
apologists for terrorism out of the woodwork.

I guess there are plenty of people even on this news group who somehow
think
terrorism is justified if it opposes the United States or its allies.

No, just a few misguided souls.

America will stand with Spain, and our other allies, in this bizarre
religious/fascist war. I suspect my children will be fighting these stupid
*******s for a long time to come, but eventually freedom will win out over
oppression.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Tom Sixkiller wrote:

Why, pray tell, do we fight crime in general?

We don't, actually. We fight criminals.

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would
not yield to the tongue.

I think that it is true that for every one you kill, more will come...

What makes you think you have to kill anyone to make more come?


The statement implied by yours (a necessary condition) doesn't follow from my
statement (a sufficient condition) More will come anyway.

Jose

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(for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...

We are in a religious war. We didn't choose it, but we've got it.


Really? Maybe we should take "separation of church and state" more
seriously here and break that link. Say what you will about these people
attacking us, but they are not stupid and they see the strong Christian
leaning of the US government administration.

Yes, I blame them for these cowardly acts, and no, I do not think they have
any justification for their barbaric acts against innocents, which is
against even their own religion. But let's be realistic here - anybody who
doesn't see the Bush administration, with its "faith-based" initiatives and
connection to the very right wing Church as crossing the line toward making
the US a Christian country must be fairly blind or strongly believe that
this direction is the Right Thing To Do.

There are Islamist extremists who see it very much as a religious war. They
twist their religion's desire for "justice" to justify their acts. But the
way we respond, and the very nature of our government, affects how Muslims
see us and impacts very directly on the extremist's support structure and
thus whether this war winds down or grows.

In article et,
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
Finally a sensible statment. Sorry, Jay, as much as I wish it weren't so,
you could spend every dollar in the world on fighting terrorism (just like
the "drug war") and you won't wipe it out.

Why not?

Jumping in hear. The problem with the drug war is that we are
attacking it from the supply side and as a criminal problem (which it is).
However the real problem with drugs is more on the demand side. As long
as teh demand exists people will use and get drugs. Some drugs are easier
to obtain than others (eg. meth vs. cocaine) but if there's a will there's
a way. Further we do very little in prevention and treatment, which has a
small (in fact very small) reduction in demand.
Terrorist are not overly concerned about the legalities of their
actions. Laws ONLY affect people that actually CHOOSE to obey them. And
while we can put in place laws/procedures to make it more difficult to
commit acts of terror (much like drugs) we can not eliminate them. Even
if we lived in a police state you can not control every human's
actions24/7.
There are battles you win, battles you lose and some battles that you
just have to forever keep fighting. Drugs of abuse of existed nearly as
long as record history. And when one looks at human history it is often a
collection of wars (and the mating habits of the nobility). We can no
more stop terrorist than we can stop war, or future wars, or acts of mans
disreguard for the life of other men.
What we can do is attempt to minimize the damage that these people
can inflict on our lives. The question becomes were do we as a society
and each person as a citizen want to draw the line of personal freedom vs.
safety. Some don't mind living in a police state, I do. And I believe
that the USA is not, was not and should not become a police state. I
believe that a free nation should have free citizens and as much as
possible open doors. I believe that part of THE PRICE OF FREEDOM is that
some people will choose to abuse that freedom to commit criminal acts
including terrorism. But _I_ would rather live in a nation that is most
free with risk, even high risk; than a well 'controlled/planned' society
with lower risk, risk never reaches zero.

Why, pray tell, do we fight crime in general?

We don't, actually. We fight criminals.

Careful, boys. This kind of incontrovertible logic is going to upset Martin
and John to no end...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Why, pray tell, do we fight crime in general?

We don't, actually. We fight criminals.

Careful, boys. This kind of incontrovertible logic is going to upset Martin
and John to no end...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"









Why, pray tell, do we fight crime in general?

We don't, actually. We fight criminals.

Careful, boys. This kind of incontrovertible logic is going to upset Martin
and John to no end...


What about Abraham? :-)



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