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On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 15:29:00 -0400, "George Z. Bush"
wrote: Thomas J. Paladino Jr. wrote: And for the record, when a proposal was floated to send F102s to Vietnam, Bush put his name in as a volunteer, however the powers that be decided not to use the plane. For the same record, when he first applied for flying training, he indicated on his application that he did NOT desire an overseas assignment. That's no smoking gun. I did NOT desire an overseas assignment when I entered the USAF. I did NOT desire an overseas assignment when I chose the F-105 (there were four wings in the US flying the airplane at the time.) I did NOT desire an overseas assignment when I got one to Korat Thailand. I did NOT desire an overseas assignment when I returned from Korat. In fact, I was in the AF for almost eight years before the first time I checked that box on the AF form 90. A lot of folks with and without families for a wide variety of reasons don't indicate a preference or desire for overseas assignment. And he had only 300 flying hours in the F-102 when he volunteered for overseas duty after he had been told that they wouldn't consider anybody with less than 500 hours. It was a pretty safe thing to do.....asking for something you knew in advance they weren't going to give you. And, when I went to war in the F-105 I had 120 hours in the airplane. When I went to war in the F-4 I had 28 hours in the type and ZERO hours in the model to which I was assigned. My first flight in an F-4E was a combat mission. So, there's not much "safety" in volunteering with a few less hours than required. That's just for the record, of course. This is just for the record as well. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" "Phantom Flights, Bangkok Nights" Both from Smithsonian Books ***www.thunderchief.org |
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"ArtKramr" wrote
He pulled strings to avoid combat. He is not much of a man. Why join the military if you want to avoid combat? Your juvenile logic makes no sense to adults. |
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"ArtKramr" wrote
And where did you fight? Who cares? |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Why did Bush join the National Guard instrae do the Army, Navy or Air Force? why? He didn't. |
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"Pete" wrote in message ... "ArtKramr" wrote Bush refused to vounteer. And he did it in writing. 6 million of the 9 million people on active duty during the Vietnam era never saw SEA. Will you belittle their service as well? Art belittles the service of most. |
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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: "Bob Coe" Date: 9/5/2004 12:43 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: D%J_c.18375$ni.14244@okepread01 "ArtKramr" wrote And where did you fight? Who cares? That answers my question. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: "Bob Coe" Date: 9/5/2004 12:42 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: %_J_c.18374$ni.12041@okepread01 "ArtKramr" wrote He pulled strings to avoid combat. He is not much of a man. Why join the military if you want to avoid combat? Your juvenile logic makes no sense to adults. To give the illusion of heroism where none exists. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote
Get back to me after you have fought in a real war. You are all ****ed up. The Army AIr Corps had the highest percentage But you fought in neither the AAC or the Mairnes. so what the hell do you know about anything? You're full of ****. You didn't join the Marines because you were scared, and too skinny to fight your way out of a paper bag. You signed-up to ride around in an airplane at the governments expense, take the cash, and the heated barracks, and lay around like a ****ing queen, while real men fought. You're basically a whore. |
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"B2431" wrote in message ... From: (ArtKramr) Date: 9/5/2004 11:59 AM Central Daylight Time Message-id: Why did Bush join the National Guard instrae do the Army, Navy or Air Force? why? He DID go into the Air Force. The ANG is a component of the USAF. Yes, but Art asked about the National Guard. |
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