vfr corridors through class B airspace

"vincent p. norris" wrote in message ...
And secondly, are there any other vfr corridors in the US?

A low-altitude N-S corrider midway between Dulles and DCA.

This has been closed since 9/11.

Not necessary to talk to anyone, but I ask for traffic advisories.

You better keep an eye out for F-16's.

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:29:35 -0400, vincent p. norris wrote:

And secondly, are there any other vfr corridors in the US?

A low-altitude N-S corrider midway between Dulles and DCA.

Not necessary to talk to anyone, but I ask for traffic advisories.

vince norris

Kind of academic now, with the SFR zone and the DC ADIZ.

Looks like your correct, I just looked up the san diego class B and it shows
the vfr corridor. I am surprised a busy area like san diego allows it.


wrote:

Jeff, vfr transition routes are different than vfr corridors through
class B airspace. No permission required, but in LAX there are
procedures that must be followed, eg speed, transponder code etc. I
presume that's why its designated special flight rules airspace. It's
in the aim.
Stan

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:04:26 -0700, Jeff wrote:

They are VFR transition routes, you still need to contact LAX prior to
entering and so forth, I have the LA terminal chart that shows the route
and gives the procedures for using it. But you just cant go fly the
route, you need permission first.

wrote:

Do I read the aim right that the special flight rules airspace over
top of LAX is actually still classified as a VFR corridor?

And secondly, are there any other vfr corridors in the US?

Stan

But I don't think these are true "vfr corridors". The aim 3.5.5.b
describes corridors as "a hole through class b airspace", and shows
such in figure 3-5-2 (at least in my 2001 aim). LAX is just this way.
From what I see of dca area from March 2002 jepp chart, these two
corridors are "under" class b, not "through". Same for Houston, which
I have Jul 1999 Jepp info.

It appears LAX has the only true vfr corridor, unless someone has
other examples
Stan

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:29:38 -0400, "Ron Natalie"
wrote:


wrote in message ...
Do I read the aim right that the special flight rules airspace over
top of LAX is actually still classified as a VFR corridor?

And secondly, are there any other vfr corridors in the US?

Not that are Special Flight Rules. A lot of class B's that are formed from
overlaps of multiple primary airports have area that is just excluded (without
restriction) from the class B. An example is NY where there is a tunnel
down the Hudson (the chart does have some notations about traffic advisories)
and DC which has two tunnels (one between IAD and DCA, which unfortunately
is now eaten up by the stupid-assed no-fly zone and one between DCA and BWI
which is only partially eaten, but inside the ADIZ). Several others have sort of
notches cut out of their edges for non-Class B transition.

I don't have the san diego info, but is this really a vfr corridor, or
just airpace below class B? A vfr corridor goes "throught" class B,
as in a hole, see aim 3-5-5-b, and figure 3-5-2 (at least in my 2001
aim)
Stan

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:39:47 -0700, Jeff wrote:

Looks like your correct, I just looked up the san diego class B and it shows
the vfr corridor. I am surprised a busy area like san diego allows it.


wrote:

Jeff, vfr transition routes are different than vfr corridors through
class B airspace. No permission required, but in LAX there are
procedures that must be followed, eg speed, transponder code etc. I
presume that's why its designated special flight rules airspace. It's
in the aim.
Stan

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:04:26 -0700, Jeff wrote:

They are VFR transition routes, you still need to contact LAX prior to
entering and so forth, I have the LA terminal chart that shows the route
and gives the procedures for using it. But you just cant go fly the
route, you need permission first.

wrote:

Do I read the aim right that the special flight rules airspace over
top of LAX is actually still classified as a VFR corridor?

And secondly, are there any other vfr corridors in the US?

Stan

A low-altitude N-S corrider midway between Dulles and DCA.

This has been closed since 9/11.

Yeah, Ron, I'd heard that but forgot to mention it. Getting more
senile every day.

vince norris

wrote:

I don't have the san diego info, but is this really a vfr corridor, or
just airpace below class B? A vfr corridor goes "throught" class B,
as in a hole, see aim 3-5-5-b, and figure 3-5-2 (at least in my 2001
aim)

It's a VFR corridor. Starts at 3,300 and tops out at 4,700 feet,
essentially a hole right through San Diego's class B airspace, north to
south and vise-versa.

--
Peter

wrote:

I don't have the san diego info, but is this really a vfr corridor, or
just airpace below class B? A vfr corridor goes "throught" class B,
as in a hole, see aim 3-5-5-b, and figure 3-5-2 (at least in my 2001
aim)
Stan

I don't think so. I think Jeff is pretty confused about the distinctions
between VFR corridors (special ways through Class B without a clearance),
VFR flyways (preferred ways under and around Class B, published for many
Class B areas), and VFR transition routes (preferred ways through Class B
with a clearance).

Craig Prouse wrote:


wrote:

I don't have the san diego info, but is this really a vfr corridor, or
just airpace below class B? A vfr corridor goes "throught" class B,
as in a hole, see aim 3-5-5-b, and figure 3-5-2 (at least in my 2001
aim)
Stan

I don't think so. I think Jeff is pretty confused about the distinctions
between VFR corridors (special ways through Class B without a clearance),
VFR flyways (preferred ways under and around Class B, published for many
Class B areas), and VFR transition routes (preferred ways through Class B
with a clearance).

The San Diego VFR corridor is labeled as such on the San Diego TAC.
Additionally, San Diego Approach refers to it as a VFR corridor, at
least when I was flying to it last March, and no clearance is/was
required into it.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...


--
Peter

"Peter R." wrote:

The San Diego VFR corridor is labeled as such on the San Diego TAC.
Additionally, San Diego Approach refers to it as a VFR corridor, at
least when I was flying to it last March, and no clearance is/was
required into it.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Sometimes I'm wrong, and when I do it, I do it right.