F-16 Encounters in MOA

Mxsmanic wrote in
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John Smith writes:

I fail to see how a 90-degree clearing turn would not have brought
the threat into view and provided an escape to resolve the TCAS
warning.

Civilian pilots are not normally taught how to recognize and evade
"threats."

Bull ****. You don't know anything about aviation, Anthony. You're an
idiot.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Gig 601Xl Builder writes:

Civilian pilots from the newest student pilot to the guys flying 747s
are taught to and evade threats.

Hazards, not threats.


Anthony, you are very determined to demonstrate to the world that you are a
moron.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Bob Noel writes:

I would have thought the circa 1998 intercept of an airliner off the
NJ coast, with the resulting RAs and complaints, would have resulted
in appropriate training wrt airplanes with TCAS.

I'm sure people pretended that things would change then, too.


Just like you Anthony.

You pretend you are a pilot.

You pretend you have a life.

You pretend you are a memeber of the human race.

You pretend you possess a scintilla of intelligence.

In reality, Anthony, you're just a ****ing asshole.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Steve Foley writes:

People blowing smoke simply become emotional and resort to personal
attacks.

That depends on their personality, but this is often true.


The only personality you are familiar with Anthony is that of an asshole,
which is all you are and all you ever will be.

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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

How often do you do 90 degree clearing turns while enroute?

Actually, more than you might think! :-))

It can be interesting to learn what is coming up behind you when you
don't suspect it.

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Gig 601Xl Builder wrote:

But it's my understanding that if the TCAS give a Climb alert you are
supposed to climb.

In this case in particular a 90 deg turn might have put him right dead
center in front of a much faster jet and caused an collision.

TCAS can give right/left/up/down commands and combinations, not just
up/down.

We do not know which flavor of TCAS the Pilatus and Premier I had
onboard. If it was TCAS I, then the pilots would have received only
Traffic Alerts (TA's).

TCAS II provides the more decisive Resolution Alerts (RA's) which pride
directional instructions.

Since TCAS I is what is generally found on general aviation aircraft, a
Traffic Alert (direction and altitude from the target aircraft) is
probably what the pilots were seeing. That being the case, the
complaining pilots really could have done whatever they wanted to avoid
the conflict.

In article ,
John Smith wrote:

In article ,
Gig 601Xl Builder wrote:

But it's my understanding that if the TCAS give a Climb alert you are
supposed to climb.

In this case in particular a 90 deg turn might have put him right dead
center in front of a much faster jet and caused an collision.

TCAS can give right/left/up/down commands and combinations, not just
up/down.

Correction, TCAS II provides only vertical commands.

We do not know which flavor of TCAS the Pilatus and Premier I had
onboard. If it was TCAS I, then the pilots would have received only
Traffic Alerts (TA's).

TCAS II provides the more decisive Resolution Alerts (RA's) which pride
directional instructions.

Since TCAS I is what is generally found on general aviation aircraft, a
Traffic Alert (direction and altitude from the target aircraft) is
probably what the pilots were seeing. That being the case, the
complaining pilots really could have done whatever they wanted to avoid
the conflict.

Traffic Advisories are issued with a 45-second threshhold.
Resolution Advisories are issued with a 30-second threshhold.

On Jul 14, 4:22*pm, John Smith wrote:
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*"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

How often do you do 90 degree clearing turns while enroute?

Actually, more than you might think! *:-))

It can be interesting to learn what is coming up behind you when you
don't suspect it.

Are the people following you green and glow in the dark?

-Robert

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"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Are the people following you green and glow in the dark?

Nope, neurotypicals, just like you I would guess. :-))

Mxsmanic wrote:
John Smith writes:

I fail to see how a 90-degree clearing turn would not have brought the
threat into view and provided an escape to resolve the TCAS warning.

Civilian pilots are not normally taught how to recognize and evade "threats."

Pontificating nonsense.

Unless by "threats" you meant a squadron of Japanese Zeros, in which
case it is babbling, pontificating nonsense.


--
Jim Pennino

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