Wet Signature on W&B?

Got asked a question that I can't find the answer to.

Say I take a feller's logbooks home during the annual and after a few hours of
grunt and scream I come up with what I think is the current equipment list and a
defensible weight and balance. I sign off the w&b in the logbook and give the
feller the printout equipment list with the same weight and balance figures as
are in the logbook.

I print this out with my printed name and certificate number at the bottom, but
don't sign the printout. Or he asks a few months later for a copy of the w&b by
email. I sure as hell have a hard time poking ink down the phone lines.

So, sez, I, where in the regs is it stated that the w&b that you carry on board
the airplane needs a signature? I can't find it. Please, no answers telling me
how to cut and paste a signature into a spreadsheet. That is child's play, and
besides, how the hell do you know that somebody didn't cut and paste phony data
over my signature?

So, chapter and verse REQUIRING a signature on the w&b in the aircraft?

Jim
Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Sign it, scan it, email it.

Jim Weir wrote:
Got asked a question that I can't find the answer to.

Say I take a feller's logbooks home during the annual and after a few hours of
grunt and scream I come up with what I think is the current equipment list and a
defensible weight and balance. I sign off the w&b in the logbook and give the
feller the printout equipment list with the same weight and balance figures as
are in the logbook.

I print this out with my printed name and certificate number at the bottom, but
don't sign the printout. Or he asks a few months later for a copy of the w&b by
email. I sure as hell have a hard time poking ink down the phone lines.

So, sez, I, where in the regs is it stated that the w&b that you carry on board
the airplane needs a signature? I can't find it. Please, no answers telling me
how to cut and paste a signature into a spreadsheet. That is child's play, and
besides, how the hell do you know that somebody didn't cut and paste phony data
over my signature?

So, chapter and verse REQUIRING a signature on the w&b in the aircraft?

Jim
Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

"Newps" wrote in message
news:R7zec.124584$JO3.82078@attbi_s04...

Sign it, scan it, email it.


I think scan, print, sign and mail might be a better way to go with any
document requiring a signature. Not that I'm saying a W&B requires a
signature, I don't know if it does or not

Jim Weir wrote:

So, chapter and verse REQUIRING a signature on the w&b in the aircraft?

There is none in part 43 or part 91.

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".

Why don't you simply answer the question?

Jim


Newps
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-Sign it, scan it, email it.


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Thought I did. I have never seen a W+B that wasn't signed by an A&P.
The one I carry is not the actual signed version, that one is at home.
The one I carry is a copy of that. So sign, scan, email.

Jim Weir wrote:
Why don't you simply answer the question?

Jim


Newps
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-Sign it, scan it, email it.


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

In a previous article, Newps said:
Jim Weir wrote:
Why don't you simply answer the question?
Thought I did. I have never seen a W+B that wasn't signed by an A&P.

Well, since the question was "So, chapter and verse REQUIRING a signature
on the w&b in the aircraft?", I don't see how telling him how to sign
something really is in the same universe.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power
in itself" -John Adams

Jim Weir writes:

Why don't you simply answer the question?

This is Usenet.

Oh, Lord. Of course. How dumb of me.

{;-)

Jim


Bob Fry
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-Jim Weir writes:
-
- Why don't you simply answer the question?
-
-This is Usenet.



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

I can't recall seeing anything with the requirment to have the actual signed
copy
in the plane. I've always kept that with the log books. I keep a copy of it
in the
plane.

As for trying to come up with an accurate one, that's often an effort in
futility. Having
been faced with multiple revisions, seemingly carefully updated several
times, I've
opted to just weigh the plane. And it's always been off significantly from
the brought
foreward updates. Plus it's probably cheaper than spending several hours
trying
to figure it out.


"Jim Weir" wrote in message
...

Got asked a question that I can't find the answer to.

Say I take a feller's logbooks home during the annual and after a few
hours of
grunt and scream I come up with what I think is the current equipment list
and a
defensible weight and balance. I sign off the w&b in the logbook and give
the
feller the printout equipment list with the same weight and balance
figures as
are in the logbook.

I print this out with my printed name and certificate number at the
bottom, but
don't sign the printout. Or he asks a few months later for a copy of the
w&b by
email. I sure as hell have a hard time poking ink down the phone lines.

So, sez, I, where in the regs is it stated that the w&b that you carry on
board
the airplane needs a signature? I can't find it. Please, no answers
telling me
how to cut and paste a signature into a spreadsheet. That is child's
play, and
besides, how the hell do you know that somebody didn't cut and paste phony
data
over my signature?

So, chapter and verse REQUIRING a signature on the w&b in the aircraft?

Jim
Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com