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Are there any US clubs that are using two place motor gliders for basic
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On May 17, 11:00*pm, James C. Simmons
wrote: Are there any US clubs that are using two place motor gliders for basic instruction? Doubtful, but would like to hear differently. Last time I checked it first glider solos in self-launching gliders weren't insurable in the US market. A couple of clubs appear to have added LSA to their stables though. Frank Whiteley |
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On May 17, 7:00*pm, James C. Simmons
wrote: Are there any US clubs that are using two place motor gliders for basic instruction? Not a club, but Acro International at Dillingham on Oahu does have a Grob 109 and another MG they lease after appropriate training, if your interested. Rich |
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On May 18, 11:45*am, Nyal Williams wrote:
Can't be a British lord; the grammar is all wrong. To the best of my knowledge no education, erudition, or semantic exactitude is required to qualify. Andy |
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On May 18, 10:10*am, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On May 17, 11:00*pm, James C. Simmons wrote: Are there any US clubs that are using two place motor gliders for basic instruction? Doubtful, but would like to hear differently. *Last time I checked it first glider solos in self-launching gliders weren't insurable in the US market. A couple of clubs appear to have added LSA to their stables though. Frank Whiteley I didn't read into the original post any idea of soloing in the motorglider. I know that there are glider purists out there who think that anything learned in a powered aircraft has no application to gliding, and to them I say "BAH!" It sure seems to me that something that can take off under its own power would certainly speed the time to first solo, and decrease the dollars to get there. But it doesn't have to be a motorglider. I thought through my experience, and decided that while I like the C-150 for teaching, the best vehicle for starting out a glider pilot is a 65 hp Champ. It has a stick. It exhibits _serious_ adverse yaw, just like a glider. It stalls power-off and recovers just like a glider, it spins nicely, and with a little instructor help with the throttle, it can be made to simulate many glider types pretty well. There's no need for the student to worry about handling a taildragger on the ground, but with the proper throttle setting, the approach and pattern of a glider can easily be simulated. The throttle is on the cockpit left side wall just like a glider. Just pretend that throttle is the spoilers. A little high, close the throttle (pull it back, just like spoilers). Still too high, slip it. The glider touchdown usually taught is just like a wheel landing in the Champ. Keep your speed no matter what, just like a glider. Have the student use the glider checklist, and let the instructor worry about the differences in his own checklist. I'd think that anyone with reasonable aptitude could solo a glider in a week, which would include about 6 hours of Champ time learning how airplanes work (a glider is just an airplane with the engine turned off or power reduced), followed by probably about 10 flights in the target glider. It takes at least 3 flights to get the hang of towing. Simulated rope breaks can be introduced quite nicely in a Champ, just have the instructor reduce the power to the setting that gives the performance of the target glider, then a couple in the glider to polish technique. I've always wondered why it wasn't done this way. It sure has worked out fine for me, although I had a bit more than 5 Champ hours when I learned. Ed (smiling ear to ear because he completed the final leg of his Gold Badge yesterday!) |
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On May 18, 12:47*pm, Andy wrote:
On May 18, 11:45*am, Nyal Williams wrote: Can't be a British lord; the grammar is all wrong. To the best of my knowledge no education, erudition, or semantic exactitude is required to qualify. Andy to fly a motorglider? |
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On May 18, 1:31*pm, Brad wrote:
On May 18, 12:47*pm, Andy wrote: On May 18, 11:45*am, Nyal Williams wrote: Can't be a British lord; the grammar is all wrong. To the best of my knowledge no education, erudition, or semantic exactitude is required to qualify. Andy to fly a motorglider? There is an instructor with Elite Aviation or iFlyElite at the North Las Vegas NV airport that provides MotorGlider instruction in his Grob 109. |
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There is an instructor with Elite Aviation or iFlyElite at the North Las Vegas NV airport that provides MotorGlider instruction in his Grob 109. Do you have contact information for him? I'd like to add him to the Auxiliary-powered Sailplane Association's list of instructors. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA * Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly * "Transponders in Sailplanes" http://tinyurl.com/y739x4 * Sections on Mode S, TPAS, ADS-B, Flarm, more * "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org |
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On May 18, 7:11*pm, Eric Greenwell wrote:
wrote: There is an instructor with Elite Aviation or iFlyElite at the North Las Vegas NV airport that provides MotorGlider instruction in his Grob 109. Do you have contact information for him? I'd like to add him to the Auxiliary-powered Sailplane Association's list of instructors. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA * Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly * "Transponders in Sailplanes"http://tinyurl.com/y739x4 * * * Sections on Mode S, TPAS, ADS-B, Flarm, more * "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" atwww.motorglider.org http://www.motorglidertourslasvegas.com/index.html |
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