Why We Lost The Vietnam War

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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Kenya is a hot country. This is like saying, oh Kenya is not a
hot country because Saudi Arabia is hotter.


I've never been to Kenya or Saudi Arabia.

I have.

But I have been to the UK and US.

So have I.

The UK is small.

Failed. Not so.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"ANDREW ROBERT BREEN" wrote in message
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Strictly speaking, it wasn't: that honour goes to the Vickers
Nene Viking. Comet I was, however, the first into commercial
service (the Nene Viking being more in the nature of a trial run).


Did the Nene Viking ever carry a passenger? As I recall, the Viking
served
as a Nene engine testbed only and reverted to piston engines after it had
served that purpose. That doesn't sound like a jet airliner to me.

1948 -Vickers Nene Viking (World's first pure jet transport) made first
flight in April, followed in July by prototype Viscount 630 (world's first
turboprop airliner). It carried pasengers, but nmot fare paying.

http://www.apda61.dsl.pipex.com/Av4/Nenevik.JPG

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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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So people;le would be engaged in war production, rather than food
production.


In a previous message you said: "The country could feed itself that was
for
sure. The Germans wanted to sink arms more than food." If the UK
imported
food to free the populace for war production, why were there arms to be
sunk
on UK bound merchant ships?

More arms were needed than what we could make. Duh!

So if you really needed them why didn't your leaders stop exporting them to
Russia.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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Fact is as you must know millions of Europeans have being
making short haul flights to the Med for their hols for
the last 30 years. The airlines operated BAC-111's
for a while alongside Comet4's, Britannia's , Caravelles's
etc but almost all had switched to Boeing aircraft by the mid 80's.

mid 1980s? By that time the Airbus was making excellent in-roads.


They had sold around 280 A-300's by that time and were a
relatively small part of the UK fleets which were dominated by
737's but certainly sold well to French carriers even if it was
a little on the large side to compete with the 737.

Airbus sales only really took off with the intruction of the A-320
which did compete very succesfully with the 737. It wasnt
until 1990 that Airbus orders started to approach those of Boeing

Keith

"David Thornley" wrote in message
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FWIW, Britain produced most of its own arms, with some
obvious exceptions like tanks.


It seems the UK also acquired many aircraft from outside sources as well.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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60 millions is small?


Yes, it is a small part of the world's population.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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More arms were needed than what we could make. Duh!


Yes, the UK could not arm or feed itself during WWII.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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Failed. Not so.


It depends on one's point of view. The UK is a bit smaller than the state
of
Oregon, and there are eight US states larger than Oregon. From a US
perspective, the UK is small.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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1948 -Vickers Nene Viking (World's first pure jet transport) made first
flight in April, followed in July by prototype Viscount 630 (world's first
turboprop airliner). It carried pasengers, but nmot fare paying.


The Nene Viking was not a jet transport. It was a propeller transport that
served briefly as a jet engine testbed. It never served as an airliner.

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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Fact is as you must know millions of Europeans have being
making short haul flights to the Med for their hols for
the last 30 years. The airlines operated BAC-111's
for a while alongside Comet4's, Britannia's , Caravelles's
etc but almost all had switched to Boeing aircraft by the mid 80's.

mid 1980s? By that time the Airbus was making excellent in-roads.

They had sold around 280 A-300's by that time and were a
relatively small part of the UK fleets which were dominated by
737's but certainly sold well to French carriers even if it was
a little on the large side to compete with the 737.

The point is European, not just UK. 280, is not all switching to Boeings.
280 is fair number of planes.

Airbus sales only really took off with the intruction of the A-320
which did compete very succesfully with the 737. It wasnt
until 1990 that Airbus orders started to approach those of Boeing

Keith